Re: [Ring] Ring vs. Tox

[Bruno Pagani]

(Sent a first time with a wrong address, sorry if someone received it twice)
Le 22/06/2017 à 16:56, David Burleigh a écrit :

> What is the advantage of Ring over Tox?

Generally speaking, they are very similar in their core functionality
from my POV (P2P, DHT, encryption…). Now I’m not an expert in the
technical details at all, but they are likely a lot of differences in
the implementations. And things around differs a lot too, like how the
address directory problem is taken.

Also, Ring still supports SIP, but that’s a bit aside.

Now, outside the whitepaper aspect, as someone that discovered Tox way
before Ring, I would say #1 difference for me is the people behind those
projects.

I don’t know how it is now (the core moved to
https://github.com/toktok/c-toxcore, and they apparently changed a lot
of things in their organization), but they did so bad in the past (in
project management, community discussions, etc…) that I would never
consider looking at it again in its current form (e.g. same software
base by the same people, the global design — though never published
AFAIK — is not necessarily wrong though). They are (or at least were)
mostly a group of childish 4chaners reacting as such on almost every
serious ticket opened on GitHub pointing out very serious concerns
regarding the project (including handling of money/donations).

Worst part is that they have deleted most threads where people were
writing their concerns, making an awesome use of GitHub censorship
abilities. Maybe someone archived all GitHub notifications emails, but
unfortunately I only kept a very tiny part of them myself…

I could try to go in more length if that is of interest to anyone,
recollecting everything I can from kept emails, Internet Archive and so
on. But as far as I’m concerned, they’ve lost any trust I could have
been giving them, and trust is a key parameter for this kind of software.

Regards,
Bruno

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