Re: Latest Octave for Ubuntu?

[Salva Ardid]

I use Kde neon user edition 18.04 that builds on ubuntu 18.04, and it will 
probably move to 20.04 by the time of 20.04.1, so I'm like you in this regard...

Give flatpak a try, it will likely grow on you ;-) 

As Mike said, I see flatpak in 3 official ubuntu repos see below (and 
additonally, the first one of the list comes from launchpad, but it's 
maintained by alexlarsson, ie it's official from flatpak):

Package: flatpak
Version: 1.7.2-flatpak2~bionic
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team <address@hidden>
Installed-Size: 5,737 kB
Depends: adduser, xdg-desktop-portal (>= 0.10), libappstream-glib8 (>= 0.6.1), 
libarchive13 (>= 3.0.4), libc6 (>= 2.27), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libdconf1 (>= 
0.26.0), libfuse2 (>= 2.9.2), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 
2.55.1), libgpgme11 (>= 1.1.6), libjson-glib-1.0-0 (>= 1.2.0), libostree-1-1 
(>= 2019.1-flatpak2~bionic), libpolkit-agent-1-0 (>= 0.105), 
libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (>= 0.101), libseccomp2 (>= 1.0.1), libsoup2.4-1 (>= 
2.41.90), libsystemd0, libxau6, libxml2 (>= 2.7.4)
Recommends: desktop-file-utils, hicolor-icon-theme, gtk-update-icon-cache, 
libpam-systemd, p11-kit, policykit-1, shared-mime-info, xdg-desktop-portal-gtk 
| xdg-desktop-portal-backend
Suggests: avahi-daemon
Conflicts: xdg-app
Replaces: xdg-app
Download-Size: 1,134 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: no
APT-Sources: http://ppa.launchpad.net/alexlarsson/flatpak/ubuntu bionic/main 
amd64 Packages
Description: Application deployment framework for desktop apps

Package: flatpak
Version: 1.0.9-0ubuntu0.1
Priority: optional
Section: universe/admin
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <address@hidden>
Original-Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team <address@hidden>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 3,479 kB
Depends: bubblewrap (>= 0.2.1), xdg-desktop-portal (>= 0.10), 
libappstream-glib8 (>= 0.6.1), libarchive13 (>= 3.0.4), libc6 (>= 2.27), 
libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.49.3), libgpgme11 (>= 1.1.6), libjson-glib-1.0-0 (>= 
0.16.0), libostree-1-1 (>= 2018.7), libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (>= 0.99), 
libseccomp2 (>= 1.0.1), libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.41.90), libxau6, libxml2 (>= 2.7.4)
Recommends: desktop-file-utils, hicolor-icon-theme, gtk-update-icon-cache, 
libpam-systemd, p11-kit, policykit-1, shared-mime-info, xdg-desktop-portal-gtk 
| xdg-desktop-portal-backend
Conflicts: xdg-app
Replaces: xdg-app
Homepage: http://flatpak.org/
Download-Size: 750 kB
APT-Sources: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe amd64 
Packages
Description: Application deployment framework for desktop apps

Package: flatpak
Version: 1.0.8-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
Priority: optional
Section: universe/admin
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <address@hidden>
Original-Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team <address@hidden>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 3,475 kB
Depends: bubblewrap (>= 0.2.1), xdg-desktop-portal (>= 0.10), 
libappstream-glib8 (>= 0.6.1), libarchive13 (>= 3.0.4), libc6 (>= 2.27), 
libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.49.3), libgpgme11 (>= 1.1.6), libjson-glib-1.0-0 (>= 
0.16.0), libostree-1-1 (>= 2018.7), libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (>= 0.99), 
libseccomp2 (>= 1.0.1), libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.41.90), libxau6, libxml2 (>= 2.7.4)
Recommends: desktop-file-utils, hicolor-icon-theme, gtk-update-icon-cache, 
libpam-systemd, p11-kit, policykit-1, shared-mime-info, xdg-desktop-portal-gtk 
| xdg-desktop-portal-backend
Conflicts: xdg-app
Replaces: xdg-app
Homepage: http://flatpak.org/
Download-Size: 750 kB
APT-Sources: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/universe amd64 
Packages
Description: Application deployment framework for desktop apps

Package: flatpak
Version: 0.11.3-3
Priority: optional
Section: universe/admin
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <address@hidden>
Original-Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team <address@hidden>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 2,908 kB
Depends: bubblewrap (>= 0.1.8), xdg-desktop-portal (>= 0.10), 
libappstream-glib8 (>= 0.6.1), libarchive13 (>= 3.0.4), libc6 (>= 2.27), 
libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.44), libgpgme11 (>= 1.1.6), libjson-glib-1.0-0 (>= 0.16.0), 
libostree-1-1 (>= 2017.14), libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (>= 0.99), libseccomp2 (>= 
1.0.1), libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.41.90), libxau6, libxml2 (>= 2.7.4)
Recommends: desktop-file-utils, hicolor-icon-theme, gtk-update-icon-cache, 
libpam-systemd, policykit-1, shared-mime-info, xdg-desktop-portal-gtk | 
xdg-desktop-portal-backend
Conflicts: xdg-app
Replaces: xdg-app
Homepage: http://flatpak.org/
Download-Size: 579 kB
APT-Sources: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 Packages
Description: Application deployment framework for desktop apps

El dimecres, 6 de maig de 2020, a les 12:36:47 EDT, Jeffrey Layton va escriure:


Salva,


Yep, 18.04 is a bit old but some tools I use require it (no CentOS or RHEL). 
Maybe when they start supporting 20.04, I can upgrade. In the meantime, I would 
have to build flatpack for 18.04 (it's not in the standard repos). Not excited 
about that.



In the meantime, it looks like I need to build the important bits from scratch.


I appreciate the time and input you and everyone put in.


Thanks!


Jeff



On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:26 PM Salva Ardid <address@hidden> wrote:

[Not again!!!]

Please see replies below:

> Honestly, I don't want to build everything from source. I've done it before
> and I'd rather avoid it.

I understand, building is flexible, but it's also complex (many options) and 
messy with the host system

> Second - I don't want to use another package manager with Ubuntu. I like
> using one so I don't screw up anything. Is it possible to convert from
> flatpack to debian .pkg?

One of the main points of flatpak is not to mess up with the host system. And 
it's easy to use once you install flatpak (e.g., from the launchap repo if you 
want to be up-to-date)

Note that for Octave devs is much more efficient to maintain one general 
package than many for different distros and have to control the conflicts of 
libraries of their distro versions

There is no way to convert from flatpak to deb

> Since it's only available for flatpack, I'm guessing there are package
> managers for the various distros? So there isn't one for CentOS or Ubuntu
> or Debian?

Some distros may include Octave in their official repos, but for instance 
Ubuntu 18.04 was released on 04/2018 so it has the latest Octave version of 
that moment

I totally suggest the flatpak way but feel free to use or not

> Thanks!
> 
> Jeff