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Re: rcd-box.el for box drawings and tables


From: Jude DaShiell
Subject: Re: rcd-box.el for box drawings and tables
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 08:13:16 -0500

The screen reader is free software and is espeak-ng.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2022, Jean Louis wrote:

> * Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> [2022-11-09 18:50]:
> > On the screen reader I use, this message only spoke the text that was in
> > the table.  That for screen reader users is especially useless since yes
> > there's a table but what is where in that table?  The relationship data
> > gets stripped in this form.
>
> Is the screen reader software in Emacs?
>
> Or you read e-mails by some other software?
>
> Is it free software?
>
> In case that screen reader is software in Emacs, there would be way to
> improve it to avoid reading some characters.
>
> Emacs has those hidden text properties, one can see what it is by
> evaluating (buffer-string) so in my opinion, there is way to save the
> whole Emacs buffer with text properties, and transfer such to other
> person. I know it is not really what we do in practice, but that way
> one could transfer also text properties which say "this char is part
> of table" and would indicate to screen reader running within Emacs
> that such char shall not be read by screen reader.
>
> Then each cell could have it's text property in Emacs buffer. In that
> case the spreadsheet with text properties would then be "readable" by
> screen reader. Condition is that screen reader knows how to read
> tables.
>
> Screenreader could then say something like "Cell A1 with value US
> $87.42". Or it could say "Moved to cell A2" or "Moved to cell B3 from
> A3".
>
> That makes sense to me.
>
> Sadly we do not have software that generally cooperates with each
> other in such way as to provide accessibility to blind.
>
>



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