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Re: Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook

From: goncholden
Subject: Re: Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 08:57:54 +0000

------- Original Message -------
On Saturday, June 11th, 2022 at 8:40 PM, Eli Zaretskii <> wrote:

> > Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 08:17:53 +0000
> > From: goncholden
> > Cc:
> >
> > You have complicated the customisation tasks compared to all other 
> > languages. This tab thing also happens with other languages such as C with 
> > multiple tabs.
> Other languages usually have their own facilities for customizing
> indentation. For example, CC Mode even has an interactive command for
> such customization, whereby you make the changes and immediately see
> them reflected on display before you even decide the customized value
> is good for you. See the section "interactive Customization" in the
> CC Mode's manual.
> Different programming languages have different requirements and
> conventions regarding indentation, so this has to be customized
> separately for each major mode.

Ok.  But it seemed to me that for fortran I am limited on what I can do,
where the original developers did not.  For instance, how can I get the
tab key to just make a tab and pressing it again to make another tab.  As
I can do with spaces.

The comment about developers not wanting to move to Fortran 90 is true
because I worked with them.  Seen too many problems with old people at the
helm.  Not good at all.  So great we all die in the end !

> > Have not really seen elisp code to do this. And for each supposedly 
> > solution, a multitude other problems crop up. This is just so that I can 
> > modify some files. The experience is that customisations and a big effort 
> > in themselves. It has not been satisfying for me also, to end up with the 
> > huge number of customizable variables.
> You pass negative judgment on features you didn't even seriously
> bother trying to use. There's no real value for such judgment. As a
> matter of fact, customizing indentation does solve the issues you
> raised, and the assertion that "a multitude other problems crop up"
> isn't based on any factual findings. It does diminish the motivation
> of trying to help you solve these issues.
> > Just seeing things the way they are.
> I wish you have.

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