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Re: Auto Fill Comments


From: Arthur Miller
Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:29:39 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:

>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:02 AM
>> From: "Arthur Miller" <arthur.miller@live.com>
>> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
>> Cc: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>, "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" 
>> <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
>> Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments
>>
>> Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>> >> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 7:27 AM
>> >> From: "Arthur Miller" <arthur.miller@live.com>
>> >> To: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
>> >> Cc: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>, "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" 
>> >> <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments
>> >>
>> >> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > * Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2020-11-27 05:22]:
>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:57 AM
>> >> >> > From: "arthur miller" <arthur.miller@live.com>
>> >> >> > To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>, "Drew Adams" 
>> >> >> > <drew.adams@oracle.com>
>> >> >> > Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
>> >> >> > Subject: RE: RE: Auto Fill Comments
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yes, Emacs terminology is old.
>> >> >
>> >> > It may be old but not obsolete. You may be younger than Emacs and you
>> >> > encounter things that were already there before you, but need not be
>> >> > obsolete.
>> >> >
>> >> >> I dislike killing stuff, reminds me > of war, I never heard word
>> >> >> yank before I start using and font > locking sounds like I am in a
>> >> >> prison. But if you can go past few > names, Emacs is quite useful
>> >> >> piece of software. Probably the most > advanced terminal emulator I
>> >> >> have ever used, and it even has a > text editor built in.
>> >> >
>> >> > Words cannot and should not be chosen in the manner not to affect each
>> >> > person. There is subset of words we name vulgar or obscene and they
>> >> > are such because people agree to be so and that such should not be
>> >> > used. Yet there is literature where such words are appropriate on the
>> >> > right place.
>> >> >
>> >> > One reader can despise word A, other word B, other word C, other word
>> >> > D, and then in the end, if one should follow that principle then
>> >> > better not write at all! There is no logic in trying to accommodate
>> >> > every person's traumatic experiences.
>> >> >
>> >> > What does make sense to help in understanding is using dictionaries
>> >> > and finding definitions.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here I just pulled the definition of the noun "kill" and verb "kill"
>> >> > from the Wordnet dictionary:
>> >> >
>> >> > The noun does not apply in the Emacs context as it is not verb. But
>> >> > even the noun here shows that "killing" may be used in the sense of
>> >> > very large profit. See:
>> >> > https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/make+a+killing
>> >> >
>> >> > The word in itself is harmless. Trauma that person associates with the
>> >> > word is what hurts the person. To lessen that effect it is advisable
>> >> > to find the true meanings of the words used and in which context as
>> >> > that way one will not use the imaginative meanings or wrong meanings
>> >> > that stem from person's mind.
>> >> >
>> >> > * Overview of noun killing
>> >> >
>> >> > The noun killing has 3 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
>> >> > 1. (5) killing, violent death -- (an event that causes someone to die)
>> >> > 2. (5) killing, kill, putting to death -- (the act of terminating a 
>> >> > life)
>> >> > 3. killing, cleanup -- (a very large profit)
>> >> >
>> >> > Not even English speaking people will know that the verb "kill" has
>> >> > this many senses. One can see that definition number 12 applies here:
>> >> >
>> >> > 12. kill, obliterate, wipe out -- (mark for deletion, rub off, or
>> >> > erase; "kill these lines in the President's speech")
>> >> >
>> >> > Thus the verb "to kill" is part of English language. If person is not
>> >> > English speaker or does not find proper definitions of course that
>> >> > most used definition will be used. If you find yourself having
>> >> > troubles or you find something not logical, please open up dictionary
>> >> > and look up definitions.
>> >> >
>> >> > One can see in the below examples that there are other valid uses of
>> >> > the word "kill" in various senses.
>> >> >
>> >> > * Overview of verb kill
>> >> >
>> >> > The verb kill has 15 senses (first 3 from tagged texts)
>> >> > 1. (103) kill -- (cause to die; put to death, usually intentionally or
>> >> > knowingly; "This man killed several people when he tried to rob a 
>> >> > bank"; "The
>> >> > farmer killed a pig for the holidays")
>> >> > 2. (1) kill, shoot down, defeat, vote down, vote out -- (thwart the 
>> >> > passage of; "kill a motion"; "he shot down the student's proposal")
>> >> > 3. (1) stamp out, kill -- (end or extinguish by forceful means; "Stamp 
>> >> > out poverty!")
>> >> > 4. kill -- (be fatal; "cigarettes kill"; "drunken driving kills")
>> >> > 5. kill -- (be the source of great pain for; "These new shoes are 
>> >> > killing me!")
>> >> > 6. kill -- (overwhelm with hilarity, pleasure, or admiration; "The 
>> >> > comedian was so funny, he was killing me!")
>> >> > 7. kill -- (hit with so much force as to make a return impossible, in 
>> >> > racket games; "She killed the ball")
>> >> > 8. kill -- (hit with great force; "He killed the ball")
>> >> > 9. kill -- (deprive of life; "AIDS has killed thousands in Africa")
>> >> > 10. kill -- (cause the death of, without intention; "She was killed in 
>> >> > the collision of three cars")
>> >> > 11. toss off, pop, bolt down, belt down, pour down, down, drink down, 
>> >> > kill --
>> >> > (drink down entirely; "He downed three martinis before dinner"; "She 
>> >> > killed a
>> >> > bottle of brandy that night"; "They popped a few beer after work")
>> >> > 12. kill, obliterate, wipe out -- (mark for deletion, rub off, or 
>> >> > erase; "kill these lines in the President's speech")
>> >> > 13. kill -- (tire out completely; "The daily stress of her work is 
>> >> > killing her")
>> >> > 14. kill -- (cause to cease operating; "kill the engine")
>> >> > 15. kill -- (destroy a vitally essential quality of or in; "Eating 
>> >> > artichokes kills the taste of all other foods")
>> >>
>> >> > What does make sense to help in understanding is using dictionaries
>> >> > and finding definitions.
>> >> Indeed; my engish really sux I know! Thank your posting the meaning of
>> >> world kill, being long time until I worked on my glossary.
>> >>
>> >> Frankly I said old; I didn't said obsolete; nor incomprehensive;
>> >> on contrary. Didn't you read that from the message I tried to convey?
>> >>
>> >> I think you are going into waters we don't need to go to here. I was
>> >> illustrating to the guy that everybody can find things to disslike, but
>> >> at the end terminology is just names, just a combination of characters
>> >> or sounds not to get attached to.
>> >>
>> >> > If you find yourself having
>> >> > troubles or you find something not logical, please open up dictionary
>> >> > and look up definitions.
>> >>
>> >> > The word in itself is harmless. Trauma that person associates with the
>> >> > word is what hurts the person. To lessen that effect it is advisable
>> >> > to find the true meanings of the words used and in which context as
>> >> > that way one will not use the imaginative meanings or wrong meanings
>> >> > that stem from person's mind.
>> >> For the record; I have no traumas, and if I did I would certainly not
>> >> ask for the advice on the Internet but I can't be not to comment your
>> >> statements:
>> >>
>> >> Do you mean, when people have traumas, they should get a dictionary to
>> >> read, to make them feel better? Because that is what you are saying! :D
>> >> Is that seriously what you are claiming, or you are just trying to be
>> >> ironic/sarcastic?
>> >>
>> >> If that is so, then I hope you are not working as a psychiatrist. That
>> >> sounds a little bit odd if you believe that people have traumas because
>> >> they got wrong meaning of a word. I would rather claim the
>> >> opposite. Also saying people use imaginative meanings is quite a wild
>> >> claim; that is somethign you would have to assert on per case basis.
>> >
>> > The last time I had trauma, it was from ringing my head after hitting a 
>> > glass door.
>> > I absolutely did not see the door.  Why do people have to clean so good!
>> If you just had a dictionary .... :-)
>>
>> Btw, I once did the same. Was too lazy to turn on lights but I could
>> still barely see in the corridor; forgott there was a glass door in that
>> corridor which I didn't see in the dark, and found myself sitting on the
>> floor after like 5 steps into the corridor. I had a scar on my nose for
>> like few weeks; everythign was blue in front of my eyes when I banged
>> into it :-)
>
> Do you remember Dennis Rodman telling how he broke his dick 3 times?
I am affraid not. But let's stop here since this is quite unrelated to emacs.



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