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Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces


From: Emanuel Berg
Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 06:09:13 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux)

Bob Proulx wrote:

>> "The sender" - you mean me, well, my e-mail
>> service provider, anyway? So Zoho is
>> incorrect blaming Gmail?
>
> Zoho definitely should not be blaming Gmail.
> Zoho has instructed Gmail to reject any mail
> from zoho.com that is being relayed through
> mailing lists. Or anywhere else either.
>
>   $ dig _dmarc.zoho.eu txt +short
>   "v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=reject; fo=0;
> rua=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu;
> ruf=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu";
>
> Previously Gmail, Yahoo, others did not
> enforce this instruction. They now
> do. [...]

I have sent a message to Zoho with the
following text. Let's see what they say.

    Zoho Cares wrote:

    > To resolve this, you may contact the
    > recipient through alternative means to
    > mark your email as NOT SPAM and also
    > raise a request to Gmail using the below
    > link [...]

    This issue has been figured out at
    help-gnu-emacs/gmane.emacs.help in a thread
    that (re)started with this message. [1]

    Later on in the thread, the explanation was
    provided:

        Zoho definitely should not be blaming
        Gmail. Zoho has instructed Gmail to
        reject any mail from zoho.com that is
        being relayed through mailing lists.
        Or anywhere else either.

          $ dig _dmarc.zoho.eu txt +short
          "v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=reject; fo=0;
        rua=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu;
        ruf=mailto:dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu";

        Previously Gmail, Yahoo, others did not
        enforce this instruction. They now
        do. [...] [2]


    [1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-05/msg00473.html

    [2] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-05/msg00481.html
        NB the hidden addresses should be as
        above, i.e. dmarc.reports.eu@zoho.eu

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