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RE: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace
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Drew Adams |
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RE: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace |
Date: |
Sat, 19 Jul 2014 10:51:56 -0700 (PDT) |
> > One more question: the backtraces I get contain ascii-control characters
> > - how can I copy/insert them into an email with these chars replaced (by
> > their string representation -> ^K e.g.)?
>
> You shouldn't bother, as those characters are not helpful anyway.
>
> If you want to produce a more helpful backtrace, manually load each
> library as .el file, then the backtrace will not include byte code.
Yes, as Eli says, loading source code provides a more helpful
backtrace (more and better information). And yes, characters
introduced by byte code are not helpful/useful.
But see Emacs bug #6991:
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=6991/
This is what jidanni reported in #6991:
Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers.
* It is unreadable.
* It will cause problems when sent via email. Even if one runs
col(1) and strings(1) on it, nobody can read it anyway.
* The mountain of gobbledygook makes people reading give up on
trying to help. E.g., http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.w3m/8695
Emacs users should be able to paste a backtrace that does contain
byte-code chars, and have those chars elided or removed, rather
than have the pasted text be truncated at some point because of
a byte-code char.
IOW, users should not need to fiddle with a backtrace to try to
piece together its non byte-code parts when trying to report it.
In addition, it is not very practical to ask users to find and
load each and every source file that might contribute to a backtrace.
Especially if the trace appeared because of `debug-on-error' and it
might not be easy to reproduce the error.
And even if only source code is loaded, there can be some code
parts that are byte-compiled (programmatically). Byte-compiling
is not limited to a whole file.
No reason was given for not fixing bug #6991, or even for keeping
it open but relegating it to the `wishlist' until someone can get
around to fixing it. What was the response to jidanni's bug filing?
This one-liner:
From: Glenn Morris
No. Closed as wontfix.
That is not very helpful.
With some struggle, we eventually got the `wontfix' tag removed, the
bug moved to `wishlist' and tagged `patch' (Stefan provided a patch
that he says does not work for him). But other than that, no progress.
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- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Emanuel Berg, 2014/07/18
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Thorsten Jolitz, 2014/07/19
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/07/19
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Michael Heerdegen, 2014/07/19
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Thorsten Jolitz, 2014/07/19
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Thorsten Jolitz, 2014/07/19
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/07/19
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Thorsten Jolitz, 2014/07/19
- RE: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace,
Drew Adams <=
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/07/19
- Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Thorsten Jolitz, 2014/07/19
Re: Emacs hangs with 100pc CPU during query-replace, Emanuel Berg, 2014/07/18