Re: Dvorak/Svorak in Emacs

[Johan Andersson]

Xah Lee, You say this at your site: "This shortcut set is designed based on ergonomic principles". What about efficiency? I guess ergonomics and efficiency could be related. But not necessarily.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote:

i've been a professional qwerty typist hired for data entry for 1+
year in early 1990s.

I've been a dvorak touch typist since ~1993.

Started to use emacs, and daily, since 1998.

So, my emacs experience is all dvorak, and it's all good.

if you are thinking some sort of dvorak for typing and qwerty for
hotkeys, don't do that.

there are quite a few pages about dvorak and emacs... how much time
did you google?

if you want to try dvorak, just switch to the layout in your OS, and
use emacs as is. That's the best way.

a lot people uses dvorak with emacs too... too lazy to cite them here.
You can find them on blogs...etc. Try to spend a hour web search,
you'll find probably more info or blogs, comments, etc that will take
more than 4 hours to read, at least.

i have written quite a lot on the subject myself... you can read:

• Xah's Emacs Tutorial

 http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs.html

• All About Keyboards, Keyboard Layouts, Shortcuts, Macros
 http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/keyboarding.html

 Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

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On Oct 3, 7:58 am, Johan Andersson <johan.rej...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I've been thinking for a while about testing Dvorak in Emacs (or Svorak for
> me since I'm from Sweden). Before I started I out, I googled a bit about
> "emacs dvorak", but to my suprise got really few hits about this. So I
> thought I'd ask here.
>
> First off I found out that you could do *C-\ english-dvorak RET*, which
> would activate Dvorak but still keep the the Emacs keybindings (So that you
> don't have to type C-l to go to the previous line). But that does not help
> me all the way, since I want to use Svorak. And by only switching the Xorg
> keyboard layout to Svorak, I'd still have to somehow remap all keybindings
> in Emacs.
>
> So the question is basically: How do I get Svorak working in Emacs? And do
> any of you even use Dvorak at all? I mean Emacs users often use Emacs
> because you can do things really fast, so I tought that many Emacs users
> would use Dvorak.
>
> Thanks!