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Re: OP mail delayed?

From: Jason Rumney
Subject: Re: OP mail delayed?
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:36:47 -0700 (PDT)
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On Jun 9, 10:56 pm, "Drew Adams" <address@hidden> wrote:

> Hm. Maybe. But:
> . Others are seeing the same thing.
> . This just started happening - it didn't happen before.

I've been getting bounces from your address for about 2 months, but
its still possible that oracle's spam filter was updated recently. The
bounces I'm getting are based on an overly strict application of SPF
records (treating soft failure as hard failure). I suspect these
delays are due to graylisting (delaying mail by unknown senders in the
hope that spamming software will not have proper error handling, and
won't retry later).

> . I don't see this in other GNU Emacs mailing lists.

Perhaps the contributors on those lists are more regular than on this

> What is the difference between a message with RE coming from the list and a
> message without RE? Wouldn't they both be treated the same by a spam filter? 
> Why
> would the latter (the OP) be delayed more than the former?

Maybe the OP is more likely to be a new poster (or at least one the
spam filters haven't seen for a long time), and the replies are more
likely to come from regular contributors who manage to stay in the
spam filter's whitelist. Obviously the delays aren't happening for
everyone, or there would be no replies, so it isn't the GNU servers
that are delaying things.

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