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Re: Time to throw away my LOVE - Emacs ?

From: Alan Mackenzie
Subject: Re: Time to throw away my LOVE - Emacs ?
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:36:10 -0000
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Barak Zalstein <address@hidden> wrote on Tue, 8 Jun 2004 18:22:51 +0300:
>> Are you suggesting that other programming paradigms (anything "visual")
>> are a barrier to enhanced productivity?  If so, I agree with you.

> Not really.

> If you can't interact with the other programming tool from Emacs, because of
> a closed non-text data representation, or a format which is not manipulated
> well by a text editor (icons, bitmaps etc.), or simply a certain development
> tool feature which is reachable only through a GUI menu,

Sorry, I can scarcely follow what you're saying.  What do you mean by
"interact with the other programming tool from Emacs"?  What does
"interact" mean here?  Quite simply, Emacs doesn't deal with closed
non-text formats.  If you have, e.g., a file.pdf, you use a different
program.  For icons and bitmaps, you'll be using an icon/bitmap program.
The interaction with Emacs comes from specifying the filename to a

Can you give an example of what you mean by a "tool feature ...
reachable only through a GUI menu", which you might want to call from

> .... switching back and forth to Emacs or trying to figure out how not
> to drop Emacs from the development cycle _is_ the barrier to enhanced
> productivity.

I think you've got a particular scenario in mind here.  Would you like to
spell it out in detail?  TIA.

> I don't think that this is seeing things from the wrong angle, when
> merely keeping up with changing standards and interfaces of default
> common tools demands continuous and active effort from an Emacs user .

Emacs is a default common tool.  As for others, keeping up with them
demands effort whether one's an Emacs user or not.

> Barak.

Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
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