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Re: Chinese characters support

From: Lee Sau Dan
Subject: Re: Chinese characters support
Date: 13 May 2003 09:40:15 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7

>>>>> "Charles" == Charles Muller <address@hidden> writes:

    Charles> Kai wrote:
    >> Then I typed M-x view-hello-file RET.  This showed me some
    >> Chinese (and Japanese, and Korean) characters.  If you see
    >> empty boxes instead of the Chinese characters, then some fonts
    >> are missing.

    Charles> I should be pointed out, nonetheless, that it is a bad
    Charles> idea to cite the hello file as an example of
    Charles> international script functionality, 

Why  not?   That  file  really illustrates  the  international  script

    Charles> since it is set in an encoding that virtually no one ever
    Charles> uses (at least in the CJK world), 

That's  a  problem with  encoding,  not  Emacs's international  script
functionality.  Maybe,  you have "conformance to  Unicode and national
encodings" in mind when you said "international script functionality".
They're different issues.

    Charles> and it is quite often the case that that file will
    Charles> display fine despite the fact that CJK won't work in
    Charles> utf-8 or native East Asian encodings. 

C-x RET c utf-8 C-x s ... does save my Chinese text files in UTF-8.
C-x RET c big5 C-x s ... does save my Chinese text files in BIG5 --
the "native" encoding for traditional Chinese.

And needless to say, I can read  files in UTF-8 and big5 using C-x RET
c ... C-x  C-f.  (For Emacs 20, I need to  install an external package
for Unicode encodings: MuleUCS or something like that.)

    Charles> Someone should either get rid of that file or save it in
    Charles> a relevant encoding.

Since no  "native" encoding preserves the details  that the emacs-mule
encoding saves, that "showoff" file  must be kept in emacs-mule.  e.g.
the  section "Difference  among chinese  characters in  GB,  JIS, KSC,
BIG5" would  be impossible with Unicode,  GB, JIS, KSC  or BIG5.  Only
emacs-mule have enough coding  space to accomodate all characters from
these  encodings   and  yet   not  unify  them   to  make   them  look

Lee Sau Dan                     李守敦(Big5)                    address@hidden(HZ) 

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