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Re: [h-e-w] spam problem, moderation [sic] enabled, members only

From: Bill Pringlemeir
Subject: Re: [h-e-w] spam problem, moderation [sic] enabled, members only
Date: 05 Jan 2004 10:43:21 -0500
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 dv> Yes.  Though what I wrote is unambiguous with respect to
 dv> Michael's issue, when I wrote that I had configured the list "to
 dv> restrict posting to subscribers only" "without moderation", I was
 dv> oversimplifying a bit.  It is still an unmoderated list for
 dv> subscribers; and anyone can subscribe.  However, a post from an
 dv> account which is not subscribed _is_ moderated unless the account
 dv> is on a list of non-subscribers whose posts are to be accepted

>>>>> "Bill" == Bill  <address@hidden> writes:

 Bill> Publicly visible lists which do not have a "members only"
 Bill> posting restriction are just a more focused form of an open
 Bill> SMTP relay.  It's a modest pain to make someone subscribe to a
 Bill> list just to post to it, but it's way below my threshold of
 Bill> "pain that matters".

I am not so sure about this.  The SPAMMERS are very clever.  They can
use a subscription to harvest poster email addresses and then forge
SPAMs with these from addresses.  I don't see how "From" addresses are
such a good form of authentication.

However, the bulk of present spam should be averted by David method. I
understand Michael's argument, but I think that the net benefit to
the list is on David's side at the moment.  What expert is going to
listen to a mailing list full of spam to help the newcomers?  If
spammers start to subvert this mechanism, then it should be

Bill Pringlemeir.

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