Re: [Health] GNU HEALTH LIVE CD

[Kostis Mousafiris]

Hi Luis,
thanks a lot for a truly extra-quick answer!

Let me try to sum my feelings up in a more concise way:
I love free/libre software, so I will NOT be put off by just the amount 
of technical  knowledge required in order to set GNU Health correctly up 
and running.
However, let us not forget that many others will just feel frightened/ 
intimidated/ discouraged by the intricacies of the set up procedure....
So, yes, I will go on and try again (not with openSuSE though :-)
until I obtain a fully working version of it (and of course I will let 
the list participants know when I get there!)

On the other hand, despite I do agree with you that a "real-world" 
install should
be done in a way that should indeed offer ample possibilities for a 
tailor-made set up,
I still maintain that if we had a "live" pre-installed CD/DVD, it could 
be an excellent attraction
for new comers to give it a go and become convinced that GNU Health does 
work
and that it can live up to the challenge of organizing a robust health 
service.

Thanks again for giving some consideration to this discussion that I and 
Raymond brought up.
Friendly regards and appreciation for your excellent work!

Constantine

On 17/12/2013 08:29 μμ, Luis Falcon wrote:
> Dear Kostis and Raymond
> On 16/12/13 17:02, Kostis Mousafiris wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I am using Ubuntu and Debian as my two basic distros and so,
> > I am all too hesitant in jumping into an entirely different distribution
> > such as OpenSUSE....
> > Despite my eagerness about GNU Health, I do not think I will embark onto
> > OpenSUSE at all.
> > I still remain of the same opinion as Raymond and I really feel that a
> > live CD of a pre-installed instance of GNU Health
> > would make it so much more appealing for people not-technically-adept to
> > at least give it a go.
> > Thanks however for listening to my thoughts.
> We don't have a problem at all by having a version-dependent GNU Health
> ISO (live CD / USB ), but I truly think that is best to use the
> installation method on Wikibook.
>
> Large systems such as GNU Health have dependencies, operating system
> specific instructions, database setup, Tryton configuration (ERP,
> security, modules, updates, connectivity ... ) that need to be
> addressed. This has lead me to put the focus on documenting the
> installation.
>
> To test the system we have the Community Database and we also have the
> database dumps for each release, so you can either connect via Internet
> to the demo DB or install the DB locally.
>
> So, summing up, I think that for demo, we can make a Live CD / USB, but
> for real world, production servers, the installation method should be
> tailored to your needs, and to achieve that you need the use the
> installation method from Wikibooks. Of course, there is room for
> improvement in both the scripts and the documentation, and we are
> working on both.
>
> Just my 2 cents :)
>
> Let me know your thoughts.
>
> All the best,
>
>
> > Constantine
> >
> >
> > On 16/12/2013 06:30 μμ, Raymond Omeni wrote:
> > > Axel,
> > >
> > > I have waited for Kostis's response concerning ''the one-click''
> > > installation of GNU Health on OpenSUSE to ascertain the ease of
> > > installation on openSUSUE. But going by the instructions on the link
> > > you provided in the email to Kostis, I would say it takes quite a
> > > number of clicks to install GNU Health on OpenSUSE.
> > >
> > > Majority of those who are in position to evaluate and enventually
> > > adopt GNU Health may not be people with horned skills in IT, therefore
> > > if the installation involves too many technical details, there will be
> > > a preference for an easier EMR installation.
> > >
> > >   I know it may require a lot of work from the GNU Health technical
> > > crew but in my opinion(and I guess the opinion of many silent voices),
> > > a live CD of pre-installed GNU Health with the option of installation
> > > to hard disk is the way to go. This way, people can easily easily
> > > evaluate GNU Health and decide whether to install it or not on hard drive.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Raymond Omeni
> > >   
> > >
> > > On 12/1/2013 2:41 PM, Axel Braun wrote:
> > > > Kostis,
> > > >
> > > > Am Sonntag, 1. Dezember 2013, 10:46:39 schrieb Kostis Mousafiris:
> > > > > However, I have to admit defeat as all my attempts were unsuccessful and
> > > > > even when I asked for help from some more experienced people (with
> > > > > GNU/Linux admin knowledge), we were not able to get it up and running!!
> > > > please give it a try and install GNU Health on openSUSE, as described here:
> > > >   
> > > > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GNU_Health/Operating_System-Specific_Notes#Installing_GNU_Health_on_openSUSE
> > > >
> > > > My goal was to create an easy, dashboard-like installation.
> > > > openSUSE is nowadays a one-click installation...gnu health should now be as
> > > > well
> > > > Give it a try and post your results
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Axel
> > > >
> > > > PS: and pls use a valid Mailadress: <address@hidden> bounces with
> > > > domain has no valid mail exchangers