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Re: bug#61894: [PATCH RFC] Team approval for patches

From: Maxim Cournoyer
Subject: Re: bug#61894: [PATCH RFC] Team approval for patches
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 21:33:13 -0500
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Hi Felix,

Felix Lechner <> writes:

> Hi Ludo',
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 9:22 AM Ludovic Courtès <> wrote:
>> Like you I’m glad collaboration is nice and friendly; yet, over the past
>> few months I’ve experienced misunderstandings that seemingly broke the
>> consensus-based process that has always prevailed.
> I have no idea what happened there, but it may be best to be open and
> direct about it. Would it be helpful for everyone to share details?

It may help to shed a bit of light on the original reason I think this
change came into existence, and in the interest of transparency and
hopefully improving or finding alternatives to the proposed change, I
consent to Ludovic openly discussing it, even if it involves a healthy
dose of critique and looking inward.

> Although you know that already, it would be best to avoid accusations
> and look inward with statements like "I was unhappy about ... because
> of ...." I might also avoid the word "you" and instead address all
> messages to a third party.


> Also, why not retitle the bug as "Restore and improve our
> consensus-based process"?

I think this captures well what one of the issues I see with this
change: it seems to be an attempt to resolve a local conflict (?) by
apply a new global policy (which could be OK if the problem was
widespread, but I doubt it is?), making everyone pay for it (via added

I've also pointed that if this is what it's trying to fix, it won't
really help, since policy is not a substitute to consensus, and we're
the same pool of people who will need to get along, whether as
committers or as members of the same team.


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