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Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project


From: P
Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:37:42 +0000

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:27 PM, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

> -   P address@hidden [2019-10-12 20:03]:
>
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > On Saturday, October 12, 2019 5:53 PM, Jean Louis bugs@gnu.support wrote:
> >
> > > When you have reviewed the facts and not just blindly respond back
> > > with your emotional reaction, let me know, as I like exchanging on
> > > true facts, not emotional or political responses.
> > > Jean
> >
> > Have you reviewed the facts about harassment and sexism in free
> > software? It doesn't look like you have.
>
> Yes, I did, did not I give you facts?
>
> I have also immediately asked Ludovic Courtès as he was promoting his
> feminist views in Guix IRC channel. So Ludovic said it is abort() joke
> and Emacs Virgin joke and MIT episodes, see IRC logs from 7th October
> and 8th October.
>
> So yes, I did and I asked for facts before anything. I am adult person
> and not an immature child that cannot confront other people.
>
> Facts:
> https://geoff.greer.fm/2019/09/30/in-defense-of-richard-stallman/
> https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/
>
> See:
> My Thoughts on the Richard Stallman "Scandal" by Jacob
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGF17TbbBcE
>
> How does Dr. Richard Stallman lead GNU Project?
>
> Dr. Richard Stallman contacts opinion leaders and forwards free software:
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/free-software-advocate-richard-stallman-spoke-at-microsoft-research-this-week/
>
> He teaches the world on free software:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCh8EcBrptA
>
> > Or did you not bother to click the links in Wingo's blog post?
>
> Yes, I did clck the links, I did not find any facts on their
> statement. On two ocassions I have answered to Andy Wingo, and did not
> get any answer. Those feminists which I respect in their own
> viewpoints, they are spreading the nonsense on other networks, but not
> gaining support enough. My last answer, the second one to Wingo is
> here:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/gnu/comments/dgelag/thoughts_on_rms_and_gnu_wingolog/f3eglgb/
>
> And I welcome and suggest that all feminist politics go to Reddit or
> any other pages but remain out of GNU as GNU is apolitical project for
> free software only, and free software only.
>
> Jean Louis

What do you mean by "did not find any facts"?

This is the part I'm especially curious about:

```
The great tragedy of RMS's tenure in the supposedly universalist FSF and GNU 
projects is that he behaves in a way that is particularly alienating to women. 
It doesn't take a genius to conclude that if you're personally driving away 
potential collaborators, that's a bad thing for the organization, and actively 
harmful to the organization's goals: software freedom is a cause that is 
explicitly for everyone.

https://twitter.com/quince/status/1172290834974142464
https://twitter.com/corbett/status/994012399656042496
https://twitter.com/starsandrobots/status/994267277460619265
https://twitter.com/alizatw/status/994682557726781440
https://twitter.com/suzanne_hillman/status/994596833761660928
https://twitter.com/MsAmandaDean/status/994162185247997952
https://twitter.com/wiredferret/status/1173042834179534849
https://twitter.com/bella_velo/status/1172524864193945603
https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88
```

Can you actually refute their claims?



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