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Re: A comprehensible introduction to Ian Grant's ideas
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Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer |
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Re: A comprehensible introduction to Ian Grant's ideas |
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Sat, 04 Oct 2014 14:32:49 +0200 |
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Mark H Weaver <address@hidden> writes:
> Ian, you are a _terrible_ communicator. IMO, your biggest problems are:
>
> 1. You present your ideas in a far too abstract way, making it hard for
> those of us who haven't already been long acquainted with your ideas
> to begin to understand them.
> 2. You write far too much, making it hard for us to find the few
> writings of yours that might be able to get through our thick skulls.
> 3. You insult us, making us predisposed to want to dismiss you.
I'd like to say that I thoroughly agree.
> However, I found a blog post of yours that I believe is a relatively
> good introduction to your ideas. I suspect this is because it is a
> response to Paul Koning, who had the effect of keeping your thoughts
> organized, and less abstracted.
>
> * * *
>
> For those who would like to try to understand Ian's ideas, I would
> recommend first reading this excellent interview with Edsger Dijkstra,
> which Ian cites in his post:
>
> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/misc/vanVlissingenInterview.html
>
> and then read Ian's response to Paul Koning:
>
> http://livelogic.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-free-fair-and-forged.html
>
> Best,
> Mark
Thanks!
Of course thanks to Ian as well, for actually bringing up the ideas,
even if in somewhat a headache inducing way.
Taylan