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Re: Groff 1.23.0.rc3 changes comparing to version 1.22.4

From: Michał Kruszewski
Subject: Re: Groff 1.23.0.rc3 changes comparing to version 1.22.4
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2023 13:48:39 +0000

Thanks for you response Branden.
I use ms.
Fortunately, the document with Makefile is available on github:
You can easily compile the document by simply executing make.
Version compiled with 1.22.4 is even available in .pdf format in the repository.

I have checked both PAGE=A4 and PAGE=letter and it looks like there is no 

Best regards,
Michał Kruszewski

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------- Original Message -------
On Tuesday, April 4th, 2023 at 3:15 PM, G. Branden Robinson 
<> wrote:

> Hi Michał,
> Thank you very much for evaluating groff 1.23.0.rc3.
> At 2023-04-04T10:56:46+0000, Michał Kruszewski via wrote:
> > Because of some bugs related with page numbering in case of ToC placed
> > at the beginning of the document (pdfroff) I have today installed and
> > tried 1.23.0.rc3. However, the generated document layout in my case
> > significantly differs from what is generated with 1.22.4.
> > 
> > - .bp seems not to work. It does not break/begin new page anymore.
> > - Page bottom margin is smaller.
> > - ToC has constant line spacing. In version 1.22.4 the spacing in ToC 
> > depended on the header level.
> > - In 1.22.4 it was possible to replace roman numbers with arabic numbers on 
> > ToC pages using .EH ''%'' .OH ''%''. It no longer works.
> This is an alarming set of defects!
> Judging by the names of the macros you're using, it sounds like the
> document prepared uses either the ms or mm macro packages. There have
> indeed been many changes (mostly by me) to groff ms, but none of the
> behavioral alternations you describe was intended. Some improvements
> were made to groff ms's compatibility with AT&T ms.[1]
> > Are all of the above conscious changes?
> None of them sound like deliberate changes to me.
> > If they are, how can I bring back what I had in 1.22.4 using
> > 1.23.0.rc3?
> Do you have a document you can share that reproduces these issues?
> > I have skimmed the changelog, but to be honest i do not feel it is
> > useful in my case.
> If you're using mm rather than ms, then because mm is a "contrib"
> project, you will need to consult its separate change log file.
> Another possible source of difference is if the default page format was
> U.S. letter in the groff 1.22.4 installation you were using, but A4 in
> your build of 1.23.0.rc.3--or vice versa. If that is the problem, you
> can address it by rebuilding groff with the correct paper format.
> $ make uninstall # maybe with sudo
> $ make distclean
> $ PAGE=A4 ./configure # or PAGE=letter, depending on your locale
> $ make -j check # will build groff and run its automated tests
> $ make install install-doc # maybe with sudo
> See the "INSTALL.extra" file in the distribution archive for further
> discussion of build procedures.
> Please advise regarding a reproducing document.
> Regards,
> Branden
> [1]

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