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Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references.
From: |
Ingo Schwarze |
Subject: |
Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references. |
Date: |
Mon, 17 Dec 2018 21:36:28 +0100 |
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Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) |
Salut Pierre-Jean,
Pierre-Jean Fichet wrote on Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 08:19:14PM +0100:
> Ingo Schwarze <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Branden:
>>> Pierre Jean:
>>>> Branden:
>>>>> +.ie \\$1 .tr aAbBcCdDeEfFgGhHiIjJkKlLmMnNoOpPqQrRsStTuUvVwWxXyYzZ
>>>>> +.el .tr aabbccddeeffgghhiijjkkllmmnnooppqqrrssttuuvvwwxxyyzz
>>>> The problem with this, is that it ignores all but english languages.
>>> Yup. I'm aware of that, which is why I did not propose it as an
>>> actual patch.
[ something about German Esszet was snipped here in between ]
>> I'm a native German speaker and i wouldn't worry about that at all.
>> It would be good enough to just ignore that problem, it is really a
>> fringe case.
> While I agree with the facts that 1) translated manpages are rarely
> up to date, 2) most people, and particularly those having to read manual
> pages, speak english well enough for that task, and 3) computer science
> is better understood in english than in native languages in most places,
> I can't agree on the fact that a typographical enhancement of manual
> pages should involve a regression for all languages but english.
True. I fully agree with that.
> I mean, people allready believe that groff/troff is a tool of the past,
> they don't need to come back to the nineties when computers were unable
> to display accented uppercase letters. Or should they ?
No, they shouldn't.
My comment was specifically about a character for which Branden
said that Unicode support is so recent (U+1E9E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER
SHARP S) that the operating systems of some users may not have
support for it yet and may continue to show it as a small letter
even after applying towupper(3). Even assuming that fear is
well-founded, it's a fringe concern.
Je ne propose pas d'eleminer la difference entre "ou" et "ou" ou
"ete" et "ete", even though i usually refrain from typing UTF-8 in
email... ;-)
Yours,
Ingo
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., (continued)
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Tadziu Hoffmann, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., G. Branden Robinson, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Werner LEMBERG, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Ingo Schwarze, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., John Gardner, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., G. Branden Robinson, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Pierre-Jean Fichet, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references.,
Ingo Schwarze <=
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., G. Branden Robinson, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Ingo Schwarze, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., John Gardner, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Tadziu Hoffmann, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., G. Branden Robinson, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., John Gardner, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Ingo Schwarze, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Branden Robinson, 2018/12/17
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Tadziu Hoffmann, 2018/12/18
- Re: [groff] Regularize (sub)section cross references., Steffen Nurpmeso, 2018/12/20