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Re: [gpsd-users] Enable PPS Echo


From: hans mayer
Subject: Re: [gpsd-users] Enable PPS Echo
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 22:47:30 +0200
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dear Reto,

> Therefore we might assume, that the PPS processing is quite accurate

definitely

> It's an asymmetrical cable link with 200 / 20 MBit/s and the average
>  round-trip-time to the NTP is about 9 ms.

speed difference has a factor of 10. this is quite similar to
my ADSL situation. but your RTT is much smaller.
therefore i assume you offset will be only between 2 or 3 ms
or maybe near 2 ms.

> Maybe it's easier to take the box to my workplace and compare
> it to the Meinberg NTP which we're running on the LAN.

this is absolute the best way.
but even comparing to a stratum 1 server in the internet will show you
a different and better result if the internet connectivity is symmetric.


// hans

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Am 06.04.2016 01:32, schrieb Reto Zbinden ST:
Hello Hans

Thanks for this very interesting article. Therefore we might assume, that the 
PPS processing is quite accurate (even on a slow ALIX box) and delay is mainly 
introduced by the internet connection. It's an asymmetrical cable link with 200 
/ 20 MBit/s and the average round-trip-time to the NTP is about 9 ms.

Mainly because of my personal interest, I thought it would be interesting to do 
some (simple) measurements and to learn more about the processing time of the 
hardware I'm using. Maybe it's easier to take the box to my workplace and 
compare it to the Meinberg NTP which we're running on the LAN.

Regards
Reto

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Dear Reto,

How is your Internet connectivity ?
Is it maybe ADSL ?
If so look here:  http://blog.mayer.tv/2016/03/16/ntp-and-adsl.html

Kind regards
Hans



Am 05.04.2016 18:17, schrieb Reto Zbinden ST:
Dear all

I'm not really sure if this is the right place for my question, but maybe 
somebody may help me:

I'm running Debian with gpsd and ntpd on an older ALIX board as the time source 
for my local network. This setup is working well for quite some time and the 
clock is kept to within a few microseconds of the 1PPS reference.

But if the time is compared to some reliable public stratum 1 servers (e.g. 
metas.ch), it seems that the local clock is always a few milliseconds behind 
these servers. I'd like to do some more precise measurement to figure out the 
latency of the 1PPS signal processing and to adjust the fudge time. According 
to what I've read, the delay can be measured using an oscilloscope and the PPS 
echo feature. But I couldn't figure out how the echo function can be activated.

Can anyone provide some guidance on how to enable the PPS echo function? Or 
maybe there's another way to do some measurements? Many thanks for your help.

Regards
Reto






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