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Re: Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep)
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Richard Frith-Macdonald |
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Re: Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep) |
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Tue, 8 Feb 2022 12:40:06 +0000 |
> On 8 Feb 2022, at 11:01, David Chisnall <gnustep@theravensnest.org> wrote:
> I could write significantly simpler code that ran faster using
> Objective-C++ and ARC than I could without either and GNUstep would not
> accept the less-buggy and faster option. Refactoring code to make it less
> maintainable so that it could compile with an old compiler and spending time
> finding bugs that are impossible by construction with ARC felt like a
> complete waste of my time.
Well that could be a bit misleading: while GNUstep policy has not accepted
breaking the portability of existing code it has never prohibited the addition
of new non-portable features (though obviously portable is preferred).
GNUstep has always encouraged contributions, and new contributors often have
specific areas of expertise allowing them to contribute valuable code, but lack
the expertise to make that portable.
This has mostly been a factor with the windows/unix divide, where we would
welcome an implementation of a new class for one platform (and work on or hope
to get a contribution of another implementation of the other later), but we
have compiler-specific areas of code too.
There's a big difference between what is preferred (fully portable code for all
features) and what is acceptable/unacceptable. We are conservative about
keeping existing code working on existing platforms, but very liberal about new
functionality.
So the issue about moving to clang here is about a process/timescale for
potentially refactoring existing core code in ways which would depend on clang.
- Re: Disappointed by GNUstep, (continued)
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- Re: Disappointed by GNUstep, Gregory Casamento, 2022/02/07
- Re: Disappointed by GNUstep, Wolfgang Lux, 2022/02/07
- Re: Disappointed by GNUstep, Sergei Golovin, 2022/02/07
- Re: Disappointed by GNUstep, Sergei Golovin, 2022/02/07
- NSPopUpButtonCell (was: Disappointed by GNUstep), Wolfgang Lux, 2022/02/08
- Re: NSPopUpButtonCell (was: Disappointed by GNUstep), Sergei Golovin, 2022/02/08
- Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep), Wolfgang Lux, 2022/02/07
- Re: Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep), Fred Kiefer, 2022/02/07
- Re: Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep), David Chisnall, 2022/02/08
- Re: Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep),
Richard Frith-Macdonald <=
- Re: Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep), David Chisnall, 2022/02/08
- Re: Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep), Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2022/02/08
- Re: Automated Reference Counting (Was: Disappointed by GNUstep), Gregory Casamento, 2022/02/08
- Re: Disappointed by GNUstep, Wolfgang Lux, 2022/02/07
Re: Disappointed by GNUstep, Gregory Casamento, 2022/02/05