Re: Project Center status, or lack thereof...

[Gregory John Casamento]

Saso, 

I believe that the FSF has copyright assignments available for many different 
countries to deal with the local laws in each.  I won't touch the debate on the 
GPLv3 issue at this time, as I know it's a sensitive issue for some and that's 
not the point of this discussion. :)

I haven't looked at PM in a while.  I will take a look at it's latest version 
and we can discuss this in more detail.

Later, GJC
--
Gregory Casamento

----- Original Message ----
From: Yen-Ju Chen <address@hidden>
To: Sašo Kiselkov <address@hidden>
Cc: Gregory John Casamento <address@hidden>; GNUstep Developers <address@hidden>
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2007 6:56:37 PM
Subject: Re: Project Center status, or lack thereof...

On 7/8/07, Sašo Kiselkov <address@hidden> wrote:
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> I would love to see more work being done on PM (either by me, or
> others), since I haven't had much motivation lately (nobody used it, at
> least not that I would know...).
>
> Integration into the GNUstep project itself is a problematic issue. I
> have no problem releasing all code for it under GNU GPL 2 - make no
> mistake, I love free software and the ideas behind it and I support
> them. However, recent FSF work on GPL 3 has raised my eyebrows quite
> often. BSD licenses, on the other hand, appear to me to be a bit too
> liberal. I just don't see the reason for a copyright assignment, when
> the same effect can be achieved with a proper free software license (GNU
> GPL 2), which makes sure that free software stays free.
>
> Anyways, I don't want this discussion to turn over into an overly
> bloated law-oriented flamewar of licenses and copyrights. If we agree
> that PM in GNUstep is a good thing *based on technical merits* and a
> copyright assignment is required to do so, I would probably sign it. I
> think the free software world is lately spending too much time talking
> about law and too little about code. And besides - in my country the law
> states that I cannot hand down my copyrights to anything I create :-) I
> can grant anybody I want the same rights, but my own rights 'stick'
> forever onto me :-P

  I share the same view of GPL3 as Saso mostly.
  There is a GNUstep Non-FSF project:
  https://gna.org/projects/gnustep-nonfsf/
  If ProjectCenter is moved to this Non-FSF project,
  it will stay in GPL2 in case FSF decides to move the whole GNUstep into GPL3.
  But I think it is the decision of the future maintainer.
  So I will stop here. :)

  Yen-Ju

>
> - --
> Saso
>
> Gregory John Casamento wrote:
> > I believe that this is worth looking into at this point.
> >
> > --
> > Gregory Casamento
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Yen-Ju Chen <address@hidden>
> > To: Gregory John Casamento <address@hidden>
> > Cc: GNUstep Developers <address@hidden>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2007 1:03:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Project Center status, or lack thereof...
> >
> > On 7/7/07, Gregory John Casamento <address@hidden> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I would like to get this fixed at some point.  PC is one of our core 
> >> applications and it should work with the latest release, but yet it's not 
> >> gnustep-make 2.0 compliant which, basically, renders it useless.  See this 
> >> comment:
> >>
> >> "As can be seen, I did not create a ProjectCenter packages because the 
> >> current release (
> >> 0.4.3) does not work with make 2.0!  I do request that a new version be 
> >> release to conform to the current make release."
> >>
> >> I've been thinking lately about plans to integrate Gorm and 
> >> ProjectCenter... to have better communication between them.    I would 
> >> prefer to have someone to work with on this instead of doing it all myself 
> >> as my work load for my company has increased dramatically lately (yes... 
> >> running a consulting company takes time and effort).
> >>
> >> My sincerest apologies to Serge, but I would appreciate it if anyone who is
> >> interested in maintaining PC would let me know.
> >
> > Maybe it is worth to merge ProjectManager (http://home.gna.org/pmanager/)
> > which seems to have better text editing (syntax highlight, rulers).
> > Copyright assignment from Sašo is probably needed.
> >
> > Yen-Ju
> >
> >> Thanks, GJC
> >> --
> >> Gregory Casamento
> >>
> >>
> >>
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