Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

[amicus_curious]

"David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org> wrote in message 
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> "amicus_curious" <ACDC@sti.net> writes:
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> > "David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org> wrote in message
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> > > "amicus_curious" <ACDC@sti.net> writes:
> > >
> > > > "Alan Mackenzie" <acm@muc.de> wrote in message
> > > > news:gnq384$27ef$1@colin2.muc.de...
> > > > > You could make the same sort of argument about any "petty" peccadillo.
> > > > > Why bother prosecuting a fare dodger for a 2 Euro fare?  Seems a bit
> > > > > disproportionate, doesn't it?
> > > > Do they arraign and prosecute people for this in your town?
> > Well, we only have fares for the bus riders and if you don't pay, the
> > driver throws you off.  How would you even manage to keep score as to
> > how many times a person "dodged a fare" for two bucks?
>
> The conductors take your personals, charge you the equivalent of about
> 20 fares.  If this happens too often, they take you to court for
> damages.  I think you get the equivalent of a ban from the company's
> premises if you do this too often, in addition to the fines.
>
> > How many times can you do it before they come looking for you?
>
> Try it.
>
> > > I have patched proprietary software (drivers, Pascal runtimes and
> > > others) in the binaries for removing bugs that were hampering my work
> > > flow.  It is a nuisance to debug using only binaries.  It is not a
> > > matter of efficiency: if you think you can tell somebody like Digital
> > > Research to please fix a system call from some driver DLL, you are
> > > simply deluded about your influence and their response time and
> > > response style.
> >
> > You seem to be a little out of touch.  Digital Research was crushed by
> > Microsoft some years ago.
>
> So what?  It was still some DRDOS internal driver which I had to patch
> at that time.  History does not change with the present.  If you don't
> understand the basics of how time works for the daily life, you should
> take some courses.
Context, please!  I would not think that I could tell Digital Research to 
fix a system call since I know they are no longer in business.  I might send 
an email to NVidia or such a vendor saying that I needed something, though. 
Else I might just bide my time.  Trying to create one by myself, with or 
without source, would likely not happen ever.

> > But in any case you would have to offer much more detail as to your
> > prowess with such things.  I still think you are just bluffing.
> > Certainly anyone with such work to do wouldn't have time to waste
> > around here.  We .NET folk, OTOH, have time to burn.
>
> I doubt that you programmed any .NET application to be taken seriously.
Doubt all you want, but you are wrong.

> > > There are several thousands copyright owners if you are talking about
> > > the kernel.  You need all their agreement for a license upgrade.  The
> > > FSF has its own opinion about just how smart that was.  If you are
> > > talking about the user land, a lot of it is migrating to GPLv3.
> > > After all, large portions are (c) FSF anyway.
> > There you go waving your hands in the thin air again.  What are the
> > top 4 FOSS programs that have moved from GPLv2 to v3?
>
> What about GCC, coreutils, glibc, and just for fun, Emacs?
Well, they are all part of the FSF package.  Surely they will do that. 
Speak of more rational people.

> > > Serious amount of money when done commercially?  More likely serious
> > > jail terms.  It is somewhat disconcerting that copyright violations
> > > tend to get longer jail terms than manslaughter and rape.
> > I don't think that you are talking about the USofA here.  No one in my
> > memory has ever gone to jail for piracy of software or music or any
> > other copyright violation.
>
> What country are you living in?
USofA here => United States of America.  That seemed clear to me.

> > All the horror stories about the BSA prosecution on behalf of
> > Microsoft are only in regard to collecting fees owed.  I guess if you
> > prosecute people for not paying their fares, you might jail them for
> > copying music and software, too.  I wouldn't want to live where you
> > are.
>
> It would appear that you don't even have a clue about where you live.

You argue poorly, using nonsense instead of any facts or logic.  Apparently 
you have neither at your command.