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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] is this work-group still serving the community?

From: Sam Geeraerts
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] is this work-group still serving the community?
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 23:05:47 +0100
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On 1/11/2021 05:46, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote:
Though I really like the idea of sharing the work between the

The question would also be how to share it practically speaking.

Back when (2012) I was pretty active on the non-FSDG wiki page I asked myself that same question and shared some thoughts on the Talk page [1]. I often had the feeling that the wiki page was too Debian-based focussed and not technical/machine-readable enough.


Or maybe we need to get there step by step?

Perhaps a first step that should be fairly easy for each distro is to make a list of all modified/deleted packages. Extract a list of common entries (might need some normalization). Ignore the differences for now, they can be discussed once the process is figured out. Edit the non-FSDG wiki page to match that list (title + package name to start, the other fields can be filled in later).

In Parabola for instance if we have our deblob instructions in an
mksource() function in the package definitions. But that content could
also be moved to scripts to enable other distributions to reuse them.

Other distros probably have something similar (e.g. Trisquel's package helpers). The wiki entries could be enriched with a link to each distro's scripts.

I'm not thinking further ahead, the next step might present itself more readily when this is done. I think this would already help quite a bit with sharing between distros and with the verification of distros that want to apply for inclusion in the free distro list.

As part of my work on Replicant 11 (which is funded by NLnet) I also
need to find and remove nonfree software, and I was also pointed to
automatic tools to detect licenses (ScanCode and Ruby Licensee) by
someone working at the FSFE, and I want to try them.

There's also Fossology.

I think that there is still a lot of subjectivity in some corner
cases, but I completely agree with your conclusion as it would make no
sense to decide that per-distribution or even per contributor.

Instead having different people discuss the corner cases could help us
come to better conclusions and we'd probably all learn in the process
as well and become better at it.

Indeed. Hopefully, smoothing the collaboration process will help to learn from each other and align subjectivity when it arises.

My 2 cents.


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