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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity
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Luke |
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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity |
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Mon, 2 Apr 2018 18:53:25 -0400 |
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On 04/01/2018 11:13 PM, Isaac David wrote:
> LukeĀ wrote :
>> Users should be aware that QTWebengine is based on Chromium and
>> therefore contains many of the same flaws.
>
> This assertion in particular raises some alarms. I don't
> think that was ever established to be the case; and
> insofar as the suspicion goes, both KDE and Qt developers
> denied it[1][2] and even updated their documentation in
> accordance to our concerns[3].
>
> Is your view still that Qt Webengine poses a problem to
> free distros, and if so, why?
When I asked their development team whether or not they use
ungoogled-chromium patches, they continued to say those patches do not
apply to them as they used a "stripped down version".
(e.g. they delete large parts of the /browser and /ui directories) I
haven't done extensive review, but as of the date of the e-mail there
was still some freedom issues and plenty of links to Google.com which
could still be stripped out.
List of good patches:
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/tree/master/resources/patches
Compare to QTWebengine's (outdated) Chromium:
https://github.com/qt/qtwebengine-chromium
Among the issues that stuck out to me were...
- WideVine DRM support.
https://github.com/qt/qtwebengine-chromium/tree/b45f07bfbe74c333f1017810c2409e1aa6077a1b/chromium/third_party/widevine/cdm
- Debian freedom patches not applied, e.g. files missing licenses:
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/077e441e6654e4658de37c9d665e58f61b262961/resources/packaging/debian/buster/source/lintian-overrides
https://github.com/qt/qtwebengine-chromium/blob/b45f07bfbe74c333f1017810c2409e1aa6077a1b/chromium/tools/trace/trace_data.js
- There may still be connections made to Google API.
https://github.com/qt/qtwebengine-chromium/search?p=2&q=%22www.googleapis.com%22&type=&utf8=%E2%9C%93
Having the /browser folder removed is certainly a good start, I'm just
not convinced they completely resolved it in their fork. So far
ungoogled-chromium is the only project I've compiled and ran with
Wireshark that did not have random connections to Google.com while the
browser is idling.
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- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity, Isaac David, 2018/04/01
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity,
Luke <=
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity, Luke Shumaker, 2018/04/02
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity, Isaac David, 2018/04/03
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity, Luke, 2018/04/03
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity, KRT Listmaster, 2018/04/04
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity, Henry Jensen, 2018/04/04
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity, Luke, 2018/04/04
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity, KRT Listmaster, 2018/04/04