Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

[Quiliro Ordóñez]

On 22/08/11 09:48, Henry Jensen wrote:
> Hi Quiliro,
>
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:57:10 -0500
> Quiliro Ordóñez<address@hidden>  wrote:
>
>
> > I don't see where the problem is to erradicate
> > things that do bad such as hunger, infant death and user subjugating
> > software.
> The problem is the attitude. I can propagate my message in a positive
> style ("Use free software to be in control of your computer") or in a
> negative style ("Don't use proprietary software, it subjugates you and
> should be eradicated"). With the former message I tell, that free
> software is good for users and as such has a positive message. The
> latter one is negative argument which has often a paradoxical and
> defensively effect, which can even lead to the result, that some people
> think that I am a lunatic. Simple marketing psychology.

It is OK to use the terms in a positive way but not to be distracted 
from the issue of freedom. A position more according to FSF and in the 
positive sense as you propose would be: "Use ONLY free software to be in 
control of your computer".

> > The point is: If you seek FSFs endorsement for ConnochaetOS, I would
> > think that you agree with their philisophy and not with OSI's
> > <http://osi.org>
> I didn't mention OSI anywhere. Of course I support the free software
> philosophy. But I don't think it would be good to exclude open source
> activists or people who use the term "open source" instead of "free
> software". There is no sharp boundary between those camps anyway.

You do not mention them but propose the same things as they do.

> > Freedom takes sacrifice.
> George W. Bush, 2005, about the war in Iraq

You cannot compare searching for freedom with attacking another country 
and killing people. I do not propose hurting anybody or killing people 
for the sake of freedom. That is contradictory. Please do not use that 
type of camparison. It makes me feel you think that I am equal to that 
terrible person. It is for me as if I would compare you to Hitler.

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ni tendría sentido." Alfredo Pérez Guerrero

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