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[Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken
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Andreas Rottmann |
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[Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken |
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Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:49:24 +0100 |
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Karel Gardas <address@hidden> writes:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:57:15PM +0100, Karel Gardas wrote:
>> > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:46:28PM +0100, Karel Gardas wrote:
>> > > > Sorry! That's just my short-cut of the whole problem. As I've
>> > > > already written I don't agree fully with Ivan's statements,
>> > > > but this does not change anything on the fact that MD5 is
>> > > > broken.
>> > >
>> > > MD5 is not broken. That's a myth. Stop spreading it.
>> >
>> > Perhaps `MD5 is broken' is not the best description of the problem, but
>> > let say `MD5 is not collision free'.
>
Not being collision-free is a property of all possible hash functions
where the hash value is shorter than the hashed value.
>>> Is this better for you? i.e. there is a possibility to find two
>>> values which hash to the same hash without using
>>> brute force attack.
>>
>> That is the case for all known hashing algorithms. Uninteresting
>> distinction.
>
I *think* *that* (as opposed to the above) is *not* the case for all
known hash algorithms. Andrew, can you elaborate?
I *think* you're both right and wrong ;)
Rotty
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- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Adrian Irving-Beer, 2005/03/21
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Bruce Stephens, 2005/03/21
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Aaron Bentley, 2005/03/16
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Andrew Suffield, 2005/03/16
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Karel Gardas, 2005/03/16
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Andrew Suffield, 2005/03/16
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Karel Gardas, 2005/03/16
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken,
Andreas Rottmann <=
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Karel Gardas, 2005/03/16
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Adrian Irving-Beer, 2005/03/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Jan Hudec, 2005/03/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Tom Lord, 2005/03/21
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, James Blackwell, 2005/03/21
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Andrew Suffield, 2005/03/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Matthew Dempsky, 2005/03/16
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Bruce Stephens, 2005/03/16
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Jan Hudec, 2005/03/16
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken, Ivan Boldyrev, 2005/03/16