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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Fwd: Website issue


From: Nandakumar Edamana
Subject: Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Fwd: Website issue
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 17:28:04 +0530

Thanks for taking a lot of effort! I can see the big change now -- it
loads finally. Yes, it is not lightning-speed, but it works. The home
page now loads withing a couple of seconds (compared to the
infinite-loading-state which it had before).

On 9/3/16, Paul Boddie <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Saturday 3. September 2016 01.43.33 Nandakumar Edamana wrote:
>> > Done...Does anyone still see extreme slowness?
>>
>> Thanks for doing that. As Paul said, the new page loads instantly
>> while the other pages are still unavailable. However, now we are sure
>> that there is no issue with the server core. The problem seems to be
>> with our CMS.
>
> I think it could be just some kind of issue with MoinMoin, and perhaps the
> profiling information can be enabled to get an idea of where it is spending
>
> its time.
>
>> I strongly suggest replacing the default main page with a simple HTML
>> file that shows an overall idea about gNewSense, important (working)
>> download links and a message informing that the site is under
>> maintenance. Otherwise people coming from Wikipedia and Google will
>> hate gNewSense from very beginning. Should I help preparing the page?
>
> "Hate" might be a bit of a strong word, but I see your point.
>
> Now, I loaded the RecentChanges page and it was a lot quicker than the main
>
> page to appear. The RecentChanges page uses dynamic information, but it is
> fairly optimised (being a central feature of MoinMoin), whereas the main
> page
> contains mostly static information and yet takes several times longer to
> load
> than RecentChanges.
>
> I loaded the raw text of the main page which, after having looked at the
> main
> page in its normal form, took place almost instantly:
>
> http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/HomePage?action=raw
>
> I also looked at various linked pages in raw form (but not in normal form),
>
> just to exclude the effects of rendering, image loading, and so on. Some
> loaded quickly, others (the Screenshots page) took a long time. It wasn't
> clear whether caching was having an effect, either within MoinMoin or at the
>
> filesystem level, or whether there could be a general resource use problem
> that causes parts of MoinMoin to get swapped to disk, or something like
> that.
>
> One thing that could help in profiling is the show_timings setting in the
> wiki
> configuration:
>
> https://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration#style
>
> Note that MoinMoin's caching mechanism should be fairly effective at
> "compiling" pages and returning them quickly. It's possible that this
> mechanism isn't functioning correctly - dirty caches are possibly the
> primary
> issue in Moin maintenance - and thus things are a lot slower, but when the
> serving up of raw text is slow, I'd suspect something else. (It doesn't
> cache
> the raw text as far as I know, since that's just a straight copy of the text
>
> to the response.)
>
> Paul
>
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