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Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced
From: |
Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas |
Subject: |
Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced |
Date: |
Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:17:38 +0200 |
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On Monday 12 September 2011, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:38:46PM +0200, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:
> > Likewise, for me it is not only important the letter of the LGPL license,
but
> > the ethical principles inspiring the libre software movement. For
instance,
> > the principle of no discrimination that is not part of the LGPL, but is
> > included in the Open Source Definition, the Debian Social Contract ("No
> > Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor") and the free software
definition:
> > "freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0)".
> >
> > Forbidding FluidSynth in the App Store means to deny all the iPxxx users
even
> > the knowledge that this project exists, not to mention the right to use
the
> > program. In the long run, this means more harm than good for us.
>
> I observe merely that this is precisely the argument used by the BSD
> people to justify the position that the GPL is wrong and should not be
> used, and only the BSD licenses are really free.
>
> (That is, the GPL's restrictions on distribution are a de facto
> restriction on use. In Debian this is occasionally referred to as the
> "restricting the field of endeavour of writing proprietary software
> that contains GPLed components" argument, which is not accepted as a
> legitimate interpretation of that clause)
It would be more fair if you avoided to delete freedoms 1 and 2 in your
quotation. Please avoid manipulating my words.
A BSD license is not equivalent to a liberal interpretation of the LGPL, that
is: allowing the distribution of FluidSynth and derived works by any channel,
including the App Store, with the conditions (required by the LGPL, not by the
BSD license) that 1) when the source code is modified, it must be available
and 2) the FluidSynth library can be updated, modified, recompiled and used to
rebuild the executable.
You clearly don't have the right to do anything you want with FluidSynth, but
you avoid a discriminatory ban for a whole community, which is not the spirit
of free software either. On the contrary: that is against freedom 0.
About freedom 2, as David said, for me it is enough if somebody who received
the program through the App Store is able to modify FluidSynth, rebuild the
program, and distribute the derived works on Cydia.
Regards,
Pedro
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, (continued)
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, David Henningsson, 2011/09/12
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Matt Giuca, 2011/09/12
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, David Henningsson, 2011/09/12
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Andrew Suffield, 2011/09/12
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, David Henningsson, 2011/09/12
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, 2011/09/12
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Andrew Suffield, 2011/09/12
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced,
Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas <=
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Matt Giuca, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Graham Goode, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, David Henningsson, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Andrew Suffield, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Ebrahim Mayat, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Element Green, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, David Henningsson, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Matt Giuca, 2011/09/13
- Re: [fluid-dev] Another application using FluidSynth announced, Element Green, 2011/09/14