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Re: [emacs-wiki-discuss] Re: planner.el questions, suggestion for planne


From: Maciej Kalisiak
Subject: Re: [emacs-wiki-discuss] Re: planner.el questions, suggestion for planner.pdf
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:40:38 -0400
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 02:17:34AM -0400, Sacha Chua wrote:
[ snip: hierarchical tasks ideas ]

Interesting idea, I'll have to try it out.  It's not as automated as M-x
planner-create-task-from-buffer, so I suspect it's not something one would use
a lot, but perhaps an efficient workflow/usage can be evolved out of that.

> They're a separate project. I hardly have any plain wiki pages these
> days, though... =)

Heh, I'm finding I also touch them little now, except to move them to ~/Plans.

> >   - in order to do anything (searches, concatenate previous records
> >   for given subject, etc) within records had to start in a records
> >   buffer, which often meant I had to first create a blank record for
> >   today, something I frequently didn't want to do
> 
> I like how I can use a lot of planner things from anywhere. M-x
> planner-create-task-from-buffer and M-x remember are meant to be used
> from other buffers, actually.

Yes, this is a crucial difference between records and planner... planner makes
it very easy to do an "interrupt" wherein you quickly file away a task that
just popped into your head and your back to your previous work context,
whereas with records you had to do a full context switch (and then some).  M-x
planner-create-task-from-buffer is already bound globally here to C-c t, and
is seeing a lot of use.  I just have to tweak it a bit more as most of the
time I create undated tasks, and thus want to skip the date entry (and the
accompanying calendar popup).

> > Now, there has been work on records AFAIK, and a version 2 is
> > pending, but it's been pending for an aweful long time, and it seems
> > it's starting to veer towards becoming a weblog tool (rather than
> > general record/log keeping), so I'm jumping ship.
> 
> Hmm. What do you mean? <curious> Wouldn't it still support
> non-chronological note keeping?

I think it still would, but my comment was rather on where the development
effort was being spent.  With the focus on weblog functionality, it was
unlikely that the general note keeping mechanism was going to be improved.

> > I do have it setup already. Ah, so the note ALWAYS goes on the daily
> > page, and only optionally for the project page, I see. From what I
> > understand, the note text is duplicated across both pages, right?
> > Hmm, this might be a bit too much duplication for my purposes.
> 
> If remember-planner-copy-on-xref-flag is nil, the date page will only
> contain a note of the form
> 
> .#1 Note headline timestamp ([[LinkToPage#1]])
> 
> and the full note will be on the plan page.

Puurrrrrfect, thx.

> > Oh! I've forgot to ask: what is the proper way to update the text of
> > a note, so that the pages propagate to the other linked (daily or
> > project) page?!
> 
> There's a planner-update-note in experimental. If it works for you, I
> can move it out of experimental. =)

Hmmm, with remember-planner-copy-on-xref-flag now set to nil now, I'm not sure
when I'll be trying that out... :)

-- 
Maciej Kalisiak       mac "at" dgp.toronto.edu       www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mac




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