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Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries


From: Ihor Radchenko
Subject: Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading? (was: org-ctags land grab)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:55:31 +0000

"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de> writes:

>> This is convincing.
>> I am then CCing Bastien, as, despite the Elisp convention, following it
>> will break https://bzg.fr/en/the-software-maintainers-pledge/
>
> Isn’t the problem that the behavior changed — so that org-ctags gets
> loaded in Emacs 30 but not in Emacs 28 is already an incompatible
> change?

It is a secondary problem.
In earlier Emacs you would get the same side effects if, for example,
you try C-h f org-ctags- <TAB>.
`help-enable-autoload' is there since Emacs 24.

The root cause of this and similar reported issues (like with org-mouse,
see https://orgmode.org/list/87iliie0j1.fsf@localhost) is optional Org
modules having side effects when loaded.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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