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Re: How to produce an org-ref citation from ivy-bibtex

From: Sven Bretfeld
Subject: Re: How to produce an org-ref citation from ivy-bibtex
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 13:25:17 +0100

Hi John

Thank you very much again. Elegant solution, and it works.

I just wonder why I seem to be the only one on the list who had that
problem. Am I so out of fashion to use org-ref and ivy/helm-bibtex
together? I have been doing that for surely 10 years but had to stick
with an old version of org-ref until recently (because of a completely
different problem that I will post in another thread).

Have a nice day,


Am Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:07:35PM -0500 schrieb John Kitchin:
> You can try something like this
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
> (setq bibtex-completion-format-citation-functions
>       '((org-mode      . (lambda (keys) (org-ref-insert-cite-keys keys) ""))
>         (latex-mode    . bibtex-completion-format-citation-cite)
>         (markdown-mode . bibtex-completion-format-citation-pandoc-citeproc)
>         (default       . bibtex-completion-format-citation-default)))
> it seems like ivy-bibtex at least expects some kind of string to be returned,
> but org-ref-insert-cite-keys does the insertion for you.
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 11:19 AM Sven Bretfeld <[1]sven.bretfeld@ntnu.no>
> wrote:
>     Hi everybody
>     Is it at all possible to produce a correct org-ref citation format
>     from ivy-bibtex (or helm-bibtex, I tried both)? What I mean by
>     "correct" is the format: [[cite:&citekey]].
>     The problem seems to come down to the question what has to be inserted
>     in the 2nd line here:
>     (setq bibtex-completion-format-citation-functions
>           '((org-mode      . ??????)
>             (latex-mode    . bibtex-completion-format-citation-cite)
>             (markdown-mode . 
> bibtex-completion-format-citation-pandoc-citeproc)
>             (default       . bibtex-completion-format-citation-default)))
>     (A) Not setting the variable at all, defaults to producing an ebib
>     link which is of no use to me at all.
>     (B) Putting org-ref-helm-bibtex-insert-citation here (as found on
>     reddit) does not work, since the function does not seem to exist
>     anymore.
>     (C) Putting org-ref-insert-cite-link here is obviously wrong. Choosing
>     that from the list of ivy-bibtex-actions, just calls the function
>     interactively, you have to search for the bib-entry again and the
>     resulting link looks like: [[cite:&citekey]]^&. The terminating '^&'
>     obviously makes subsequent LaTeX-exports fall.
>     (D) Putting "bibtex-completion-format-citation-org-cite" here,
>     produces standard org-links: [cite:@citekey]. These are not correctly
>     exported to a tex file when the org-ref package is loaded.
>     The only working solution I have found is to use org-ref's own cite
>     function org-ref-insert-cite-link. I know that ivy-bibtex can be set
>     as backend (require 'org-ref-ivy). But in this way ivy-bibtex's other
>     actions (like opening an associated PDF or note file) are lost.
>     It would be nice to be able to use a SINGLE key-binding to select a
>     bib-entry and then decide what to do with it (insert org reference,
>     insert tex reference, open pdf, etc.). This was possible earlier (I
>     did that for years with older versions of org-ref-helm) but is
>     apparently no longer possible now.
>     Many thanks for help and suggestions,
>     Sven
> References:
> [1] mailto:sven.bretfeld@ntnu.no

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