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Re: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly
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Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide |
Subject: |
Re: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly |
Date: |
Thu, 27 Oct 2022 23:43:11 +0200 |
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Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> * Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de> [2022-10-27 14:23]:
>>
>> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
>>
>> > * Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> [2022-10-25 15:14]:
>> >>
>> >> This wish request is related to Emacs EWW and Org mode.
>> >>
>> >> Please make EWW recognize Org file when served by WWW server. Currently
>> >> it does not recognize the MIME type text/x-org and opens the file as
>> >> text, it does not invoke the org mode. In my opinion, it should.
>> >
>> > Now is clear that main problem here is that Org advertises somewhere
>> > to be "text" in MIME context, while it is not, it is by default
>> > "application" and thus unsafe, see:
>> >
>> > Application Media Types
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6838#section-4.2.5
>> >
>> > and understand difference to:
>> >
>> > Text Media Types
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6838#section-4.2.1
>> >
>> > Thus I suggest that Org changes its MIME type and stop falsely
>> > claiming to be "text" in MIME context, but that content type:
>> > "application/x-org" become adopted, as that way it will become clear
>> > that it is unsafe opening Org as falsely claimed "plain" text.
>>
>> You are mixing up text/plain and text/*. Orgmode is clearly text/* but
>> not text/plain. From your link:
>
> How do I mix it?
The paragraph about plain text only applies to text/plain.
The following paragraph shows clearly that org-mode is rich-text,
because it can be read without specialized program. And it is: I
sometimes read org-mode documents with nano.
>> Beyond plain text, there are many formats for representing what might
>> be known as "rich text". An interesting characteristic of many such
>> representations is that they are to some extent readable even without
>> the software that interprets them. It is useful to distinguish them,
>> at the highest level, from such unreadable data as images, audio, or
>> text represented in an unreadable form. In the absence of
>> appropriate interpretation software, it is reasonable to present
>> subtypes of "text" to the user, while it is not reasonable to do so
>> with most non-textual data. Such formatted textual data can be
>> represented using subtypes of "text".
>
> Org is not just rich text for reason as explained here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6838#section-4.2.5 so I
> suggest reading it.
This is information that must be processed by an application before it is
viewable or usable by a user"
That is very much *not* the case for org-mode documents.
You’ll have to quote a specific point you mean, because I do not find
anything that supports your point in there.
Best wishes,
Arne
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- Re: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly, Jean Louis, 2022/10/27
- Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly, Max Nikulin, 2022/10/27
- Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly, Jean Louis, 2022/10/27
- Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly, Quiliro Ordóñez, 2022/10/27
- Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly, Quiliro Ordóñez, 2022/10/27
- Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide, 2022/10/27
- Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly, Jean Louis, 2022/10/27
- Re: bug#58774: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide, 2022/10/27
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