Re: [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default?

[Jean Louis]

* Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> [2021-05-02 11:52]:
> 
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> 
> > * Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> [2021-05-02 09:10]:
> >> Various discussions convinced me that `org-adapt-indentation' should
> >> be nil by default.
> >> 
> >> With `electric-indent-mode' being activated by default in Emacs, the
> >> current behavior is that RET after a headline moves the point below
> >> the beginning of this headline, not the beginning of the line, which
> >> might surprise users.
> >> 
> >> Indentation is quite sensitive: what do you think of setting a new
> >> default value of nil for `org-adapt-indentation' in Org 9.5?
> >
> > Yes, it should be nil just as it was in beginning.
> >
> > But there is one problem that I encountered since that was introduced,
> > namely I do like properties being indented under the first letter of
> > heading or on 3rd place.
> >
> > Like this below, however, C-c C-x p will create properties indented
> > only if org-adapt-indentation is t
> >
> > * Heading
> >   :PROPERTIES:
> >   :ARCHIVE:  new
> >   :END:
> >
> > But if org-adapt-indentation is nil, it will be like:
> >
> > * Heading
> > :PROPERTIES:
> > :ARCHIVE:  new
> > :END:
> >
> > and I remember that behavior before the introduced change was that
> > properties were intended, which does look nicer for properties.
> >
> > But I definitely do not prefer cursor to come indentend after writing a 
> > header like:
> >
> > * Heading
> >   C
> >   ursor on C
> >
> >
> 
> Sounds like you want the 'headline-data value for this variable. Please
> check the documentation.

If I set `org-adapt-indent' to 'headline-data, I get that same
behavior that after pressing ENTER on headline line, position becomes
indentend. So it does not make it right.

My favour was the behaviour how it was before introduction of
indentation change:

- after headline, cursors went to beginning of line; I find it
  usable, as that is where I write text. 

- if I ever wanted to enter properties with C-c C-x p, those were automatically
  indented,

But OK I can personally get used, especially that I these months avoid
using any properties in Org mode.


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Jean

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