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Re: [O] Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend

From: Feng Shu
Subject: Re: [O] Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:43:04 +0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux)

Carsten Dominik <address@hidden> writes:

> Hi Christian,
> On 24.9.2013, at 15:18, Christian Moe <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I don't have the developer skillz.
>> Otherwise I'd be happy to help out any way I can, e.g. tracking issues
>> and requests, digging into ODT format, replicating bugs and testing
>> patches on a more systematic basis.
> Thanks, this would be great.
>> (The latter two assuming I can root out the setup/installation weirdness
>> that seems to affect my local ODT export.)
>> I see Jambunathan has placed his patches in the public domain under a
>> GPL-compatible CC0 license. Other considerations aside, doesn't that
>> mean they could be applied in Org?
> Putting them under CC0 means that we could use them, and that Emacs
> could in principle use them as well.  However, Emacs has made the *choice*
> to only include stuff for which they have the copyright assignment to
> the FSF.  (Stefan does reiterate this in the thread following Jambunathans
> message). Since Org is distributed as part of Emacs, this also applies
> to us.
> I have looked at the patches.
> 1. Implement an alternative format for description lists.  Description
>    lists are, I think, already "supported" by the odt exporter, even
>    though odt does not seem to support them natively.
> 2. As far as I can see, this mainly implements a simpler way to access
>    attributes internally.  It does not fix any bug I would know about.
> 3. Introduces some kind of new way to force page breaks.  I don't
>    see why we need it.
> 4. adds jabref support.  Sounds interesting, but I don't know if anyone
>    here uses it or would like to use it.

I use this feature now. In my opinion, this is very cool. 
I use org-mode to write paper draft and export the draft to odf file instead of 
pdf file, the 
reason is that I can't develop a suitable latex style 
for our university... so  ox-jabref.el + ox-odt.el become a 
easy approach.

> So I don't think any of this is required at this moment.  But it would
> be great if you could keep en eye out for mailing list requests and
> bug reports around this exporter and try to get things fixed when necessary.
> Thanks!
> - Carsten
>> Yours,
>> Christian
>> Carsten Dominik writes:
>>> Hi eager Org mode contributors
>>> One more try - it would be really nice to find a volunteer for this task.
>>> I can do this myself - but it would take time away from other tasks.
>>> - Carsten
>>> On 18.9.2013, at 06:38, Carsten Dominik <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am looking for someone who knows about the internals of the ODT
>>>> file format, and who would have time to become the responsible
>>>> person for ox-odt.el.  Since we cannot take patches from the
>>>> original author (Jambunathan) anymore, this module is currently
>>>> orphaned.
>>>> There are a few recent patches Jambunathan has made and published here:
>>>>     http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15384>>> 
>>>> We cannot take them (due to FSF rules and for other reasons as
>>>> well) - but the new maintainer can take a look at them and see if
>>>> there is functionality or bug fixes we need and re-implment those.
>>>> For the rest I would hope that you can watch the mailing list and
>>>> Emacs bug reports for issues related to this backend and try to
>>>> fix them, obviously with support from the mailing list.
>>>> Also,maybe there are ideas for additional functionality?
>>>> Please write to me if you are interested.
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> - Carsten


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