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Re: [emacs-humanities] [External] : Re: Extending Emacs Bookmarks to Wor
Re: [emacs-humanities] [External] : Re: Extending Emacs Bookmarks to Work with EWW
Thu, 8 Jul 2021 14:58:21 +0000
Coming to this very late -sorry...
Why is this in the "Humanities" mailing list, rather
than in firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com,
or better yet, submitted as an enhancement request
(`M-x report-emacs-bug')? I, for one, would have
noticed it 6 months ago. ;-)
> I was somewhat surprised that EWW didn't
> already supply a bookmark handler function. So I looked at
> lisp/net/eww.el in the Emacs sources and found that EWW actually
> has its *own* bookmarking code entirely -- apparently, a totally
> different system from the generic bookmark.el in Emacs.
> (Seriously: search for "bookmark" in eww.el and you'll see a
> whole other system implemented.)
Yes. And that's unfortunate - doesn't play well...
> While the EWW system doesn't predate bookmark.el (since
> bookmark.el almost predates the World Wide Web itself, it must
> certainly predate EWW), the EWW bookmark system *may* date from
> the time before bookmark.el bookmarks were made extensible in the
> way that your post describes... Well, I checked, and that's not
> the case either. EWW's bookmark system was added in 2013, and
> bookmark.el bookmarks were already extensible in 2008 or 2009.
> However, maybe EWW bookmarks are not exactly the same
> functionality as generic Emacs bookmarks, so that there is some
> reason why EWW has its own implementation? I don't know.
No good reason that I found. (You can ask the same
question of Org, BTW.)
> Anyway, your post is very clear. If you ever find out what the
> difference is (if any) between EWW's "native" bookmarks and
> bookmark.el bookmarks, I'd love to learn more, either here or in a
> new post.
EWW implemented its own bookmarking, which is
incompatible with ordinary Emacs bookmarking.
Bookmark+ implemented ordinary Emacs bookmarks for
EWW in 2016 (for Emacs 25 and later).
1. You can use command `bmkp-convert-eww-bookmarks'
to add the (pseudo-)bookmarks from a vanilla EWW
file to a regular bookmarks file. The original
EWW file isn't affected - its "bookmarks" are
just copied and the copies are converted to
2. Minor mode `bmkp-eww-auto-bookmark-mode'
automatically sets a bookmark when you visit a URL
with EWW. The bookmark name is the title of the
Option `bmkp-eww-auto-type' controls how such
automatic bookmarking behaves:
* `update-only' (default): Update an existing
bookmark if there is one - don't create a new one.
* `create-or-update': Create a bookmark or update
an existing bookmark.
3. Other options:
Option `bmkp-eww-generate-buffer-flag' says whether
to generate a new buffer when jumping to a bookmark.
Option `bmkp-eww-buffer-renaming' lets you control
whether and how an EWW buffer gets renamed:
* nil: Don't rename - use `*eww* (vanilla behavior)
* `url': Rename to web-page title plus the last 20
chars of the URL.
* `page': Rename to just the web-page title.
Option `bmkp-eww-replace-keys-flag' says whether to
replace the vanilla EWW bookmarking keys and menus
with Bookmark+ ones.
4. As with other types of bookmarks, Bookmark+ lets
you do these things in the bookmark-list display
for EWW bookmarks (i.e. regular Emacs bookmarks for
* Mark the EWW bookmarks
* Show/hide only the EWW bookmarks
* Toggle whether to use a new buffer when jumping to
an EWW bookmark
5. Globally, you can cycle among EWW bookmarks (jump
to them in sequence). You can control the cycling
order etc. - see "Cycling, Navigation List":
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