Re: An anonymous IRC user's opinion

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 22:11:48 +0200
> Cc: johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
> 
> On 21/11/2024 22:03, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> >> It would be nice to understand the minimum requirements to replace the
> >> current approach.
> > 
> > If you think that I have all of them figured out, you are wrong.
> > Coming up with such requirements is not easy, and should probably be a
> > team job.  I will try, when I have time, to post a list of what I
> > think should be part of those requirements, but feel free to beat me
> > to it.
> 
> Well, the thing is that I figured the patch already covers roughly the 
> same area as the current capabilities (while removing certain downsides).

I don't understand what you want to say here and how it is relevant to
your request to see the minimum requirements.

> >>> Then you should understand that I think it _is_ a replacement for the
> >>> current setup, which AFAIK we all consider as sub-optimal.
> >>
> >> Here's a quote one of your previous emails:
> >>
> >>   > This is okay as an opt-in feature, but it cannot be the only way for
> >>   > users to tell Emacs they prefer one or more TS-based modes.  For
> >>   > starters, some people might be annoyed by these suggestions, and might
> >>   > prefer more proactive ways of enabling those modes.
> >>
> >> I have proposed an implementation of a "more proactive way". If it seems
> >> insufficient to you, perhaps you could describe missing scenarios that
> >> are supported with the the current approach. They might be easy enough
> >> to add (or explain how they are supported already through other means).
> > 
> > I already did: IMO we should have user commands to tell Emacs that the
> > user wants to use these modes, not only suggestions by Emacs to use
> > them, triggered by visiting files.
> 
> "Suggestions by Emacs to use them" is a different feature (implemented 
> by Philip K. in his branch), it's not what my patch does.

I didn't say it did!  The "quote from my previous email" was about the
suggestions by Emacs proposal, and I wrote that because you asked
whether the branch could be the solution for letting users express
their will to use TS modes.