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Re: Help sought understanding shorthands wrt modules/packages
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Richard Stallman |
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Re: Help sought understanding shorthands wrt modules/packages |
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Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:35:51 -0500 |
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> I must admit that I don't understand what you are referring to. Could
> you please give an example of a module system doing that?
I can't. I have never written code in a language which has such a
module system. I read about these module systems decades ago.
For more details, or examples, you will need to ask people who have
actually used them.
At first
> glance It sounds like visibility rules, or something, but I don't
> remember a language with different visibility rules for functions and
> variables, ATM.
What I recall is NOT that there are "different visibility rules",
but rather that the visibility rules would apply to specific definitions.
Perhaps in those languages a given symbol can have only one active
definition in any scope. So a symbol could be have a function definition
or a variable definition in any given module, but never both.
I think that is the situation in Scheme. But I have never programmed
in Scheme.
> > The grave problem of :USE in CL packages could be fixed by replacing
> > it with a new construct that specifies a list of symbols to be
> > inherited from each other package, perhaos with renaming.
> I fail to understand the "grave" problem, sorry. Could you please give
> a more concrete example?
Perhaps "shadow" or "shadowing-import" amount to the construct I was
envisioning. I saw those terms only today, and I don't know what they
mean.
> > We could call this system "corrected CL packages."
> > It would not be compatible but it would be better.
> It could be compatible, at least I don't see a reason right now why it
> couldn't.
It could be made upward-compatible, but not fully compatible: programs
using :INHERIT would not load in standard Common Lisp.
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