Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey

[Jean Louis]

* Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com> [2020-10-11 21:58]:
> Le dim. 11 oct. 2020 à 20:47, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> a écrit :
> >
> > * Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com> [2020-10-11 21:28]:
> > > > It would be great if melpa.org didn't require Javascript for
> > > > functionality, at all. But that is just my opinion.
> > > >
> > > > It is not possible to browse packages on M-x eww, for example. Perhaps a
> > > > fallback would be nice.
> > >
> > > M-x list-packages ?
> >
> > It is possible that MELPA webmaster have setup that website with
> > intention not to let Emacs users browse packages through Emacs, but to
> > force them to install MELPA into Emacs
> >
> > As the link to packages list is impossible to reach, but the link on
> > how to add MELPA to Emacs is quite reachable through Emacs.
> 
> I think you're making an unfair "trial of motives" here.

Slight act of distracting and magic is done, instead of letting users
understand what MELPA is, like does it at all offer free software (it
is not described on the page or mentioned), it just says: do this and
install this in Emacs, then proceed with installation of packages. It
does not link back to Emacs software page, which I would as
responsible webmaster always do.

As I am not a judge, I make no trials, my impression though remains
the same that it was intentional. Now you say the bug report from 2016
to make MELPA browsable by Emacs still remains same.

> For the record, here is the (short) discussion on the topic:
> https://github.com/melpa/melpa/issues/3483

I see some pretty trivial nonsense there:
> "There is therefore no easy way to fix this, and I don't believe it
> is worth a bigger effort,"

How it was done by using Javascript, it can be done by using Emacs
Lisp or any other programming language, and generate static pages,
quite automatically.

> You can add Melpa to the list of repositories in an emacs instance and
> then browse it with list-packages. That will not "install Melpa" if
> you don't add the repository line in your init.el.

I am speaking of accessibility subject.

It will be remedied with elpa.nongnu.org