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Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package
From: |
Óscar Fuentes |
Subject: |
Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package |
Date: |
Fri, 19 Apr 2019 15:23:52 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:
>> Since then, both bandwidth and disk space has gotten cheaper. But I
>> bet there are still lots of situations where Emacs' smallness is
>> important. Especially in poorer parts of the world.
>
> Of course. But those situations need special-purpose packages, and
> each one of those will need a volunteer dedicated to produce and
> support it. The popular demand clearly shifted to having the
> comprehensive packages with everything included.
>
> Feel free to volunteer to produce a bare-minimum Emacs package for
> such situation.
We have the no-deps package, but with dozens of MB of debug info and a
duplicated large binary. I doubt this benefits 0.1% of the Emacs user
base. And that benefit is just a minor convenience for them.
OTOH, the bigger the file to download, the less people will get it.
People that will use something else. For a political (or social, if you
prefer) project as GNU/Emacs, this is not acceptable when you can
significantly reduce the download with a few trivial changes (1).
I live on Western Europe and know plenty of people who access the
Internet through metered and/or slow connections.
And then we have the issue with general bloat in IT and the associated
waste. I feel morally obligued to not contribute to that waste.
1. Using a better compression method, such as 7z, probably will reduce
the download significantly.
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, (continued)
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Phillip Lord, 2019/04/17
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Stefan Monnier, 2019/04/17
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Björn Lindqvist, 2019/04/18
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/04/19
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package,
Óscar Fuentes <=
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Phillip Lord, 2019/04/22
- Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Óscar Fuentes, 2019/04/22
Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Stefan Monnier, 2019/04/17
Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package, Björn Lindqvist, 2019/04/17