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Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize)
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize) |
Date: |
Fri, 11 Aug 2017 09:14:46 +0300 |
> From: Mark Oteiza <address@hidden>
> Cc: Radon Rosborough <address@hidden>, address@hidden, address@hidden
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:00:58 -0400
>
> The form is put there in order to coddle users who copy-paste
> configurations a) into their init files, or b) in Customize settings,
> that use symbols from packages before the packages are (auto-)loaded.
>
> To quote the implementer (from this thread[2]):
>
> > Another consequence is that users can't paste
> > configurations into their init file in the way that 90% of the
> > (emacs-related) internet is telling them to.
> > By adding the chosen snippet to the user's init file we are preventing
> > this sort of problem for new users, instead of telling them it's their
> > fault for not understanding package.el.
>
> FWIW here are some other links to threads surrounding the issue when it
> was being debated/implemented:
>
> [0] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-03/msg00897.html
> [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-03/msg01016.html
> [2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-04/msg00002.html
Thanks for the pointers, I will read those discussions.
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), (continued)
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Radon Rosborough, 2017/08/07
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/09
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Radon Rosborough, 2017/08/09
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Eli Zaretskii, 2017/08/10
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Radon Rosborough, 2017/08/10
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Eli Zaretskii, 2017/08/10
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Radon Rosborough, 2017/08/10
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Eli Zaretskii, 2017/08/10
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Radon Rosborough, 2017/08/10
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Mark Oteiza, 2017/08/10
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize),
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Nick Helm, 2017/08/10
- Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize), Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/11
- Interoperation between package managers (was: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize)), Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/09
- Re: Interoperation between package managers (was: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize)), Radon Rosborough, 2017/08/09
- Re: Interoperation between package managers, Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/10
- Re: Interoperation between package managers, Radon Rosborough, 2017/08/10
- Re: Interoperation between package managers, Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/11
- Re: Interoperation between package managers, Radon Rosborough, 2017/08/12
- Re: Interoperation between package managers, Jonas Bernoulli, 2017/08/12
- Re: Interoperation between package managers, Stefan Monnier, 2017/08/13