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Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language |
Date: |
Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:52:21 +0300 |
> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden
> From: Przemysław Wojnowski <address@hidden>
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 21:34:19 +0200
>
> W dniu 16.10.2015 o 18:11, Eli Zaretskii pisze:
> > In any case, Emacs can never be satisfied with the current Guile
> > infrastructure for i18n. There are too many shortcomings, some of
> > them were mentioned here. Yes, Guile can be fixed to be better in
> > that area, but no one is working on that, AFAIK, and what's more
> > important, lead Guile developers don't even agree Guile should move in
> > that direction. (This especially puzzles me: to have a good example
> > before you and not follow it? Emacs learned what it has now the hard
> > way, have paid in blood, sweat and tears for that knowledge, and still
> > Guile developers think they "know better"? Present parties excluded,
> > of course.)
>
> Is i18n the only obstacle?
The only major one I know of. There are quite a few minor ones, which
will also have to be handled. In general, Guile is much less portable
to non-GNU/Linux systems than Emacs.
> IOW if someone would improve Guile's i18n infrastructure to match that of
> Emacs, would it be included into Emacs?
Including Guile in Emacs is a project by itself, regardless of
features missing from Guile itself.
> To be clear, I'm not asking to make a pressure on you, but only in context of
> motivation. If someone would know that i18n is the only obstacle, maybe this
> person(s) would find motivation to do the job. Without that it is
> discouraging.
>
> This way or another, a clear decision would be helpful here. "Yes, we want
> if...", "No, we don't want, because...". At least it would clarify everything
> and close the topic.
Theoretically, there's no problem: Guile is _the_ GNU extension
language, so accepting it in Emacs is a no-brainer.
Practically, I see no reason to make any decisions until someone comes
up and publishes a repository where all the necessary work has been
done. There's a person working on that, on and off, but that job is
far from complete.
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, (continued)
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Ludovic Courtès, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Przemysław Wojnowski, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Ludovic Courtès, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/17
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Ludovic Courtès, 2015/10/17
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/17
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Ludovic Courtès, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer, 2015/10/18