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Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions
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Dani Moncayo |
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Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions |
Date: |
Sun, 4 Nov 2012 16:00:34 +0100 |
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> wrote:
>> (a) They are ambiguous: here we are talking about _vertical_
>> scrolling, and "forward"/"backward" could refer to horizontal
>> scrolling too.
>
> We could fix that by explicitly mentioning it's vertical scrolling.
Yes, but I guess we all agree that "up" is a cleaner, shorter and thus
better name than "vertical backward".
>> (b) They take the opposite criterion: while "up"/"down" refer to the
>> movement of the text (relative to the window), "forward"/"backward"
>> refer to the movement of the window (relative to the text). So we end
>> up with a confusing mix of criteria.
>
> That's also a problem in your proposal.
I don't think so: my proposal implies to use a single criterion: the
standard one that describes the movement of the window (view port),
relative to the text.
>> 1. Rename the command `scroll-up' to `scroll-window-down' (an
>
> While you can argue it's less ambiguous, you have to think about it
> to remove the various ambiguities (e.g. you have think about it before
> determining that it probably doesn't mean "scroll-window- as opposed to
> scroll-frame-").
Mmmm, well, then maybe "scroll-view-" would be even better than
"scroll-window-".
> The up/down terminology is just to be avoided, I think. Much clearer is
> terminology that refers to the beginning/end of the text.
I disagree: IMHO, the words that best describe the direction of a
_vertical_ movement are precisely "up" and "down", and are they are
used elsewhere for this very purpose.
--
Dani Moncayo
- Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions, Dani Moncayo, 2012/11/04
- Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions, Stefan Monnier, 2012/11/04
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- Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/11/04
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