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Re: please make line-move-visual nil
From: |
Miles Bader |
Subject: |
Re: please make line-move-visual nil |
Date: |
Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:33:01 +0900 |
Bob Rogers <address@hidden> writes:
> Why do you suppose an Emacs newbie would expect the arrow keys to be the
> same as C-n/C-p?
I don't think they'll "expect" that, I hope they'll learn from what we
tell them, part of which is the traditional emacs key-bindings.
That learning is what will be easier if emacs traditional key-bindings
are simply different names for familiar concepts.
> Personally, I would welcome binding visual movement to the arrow keys
> -- the arrows do *look* visual, especially compared to C-n/C-p. And it
> would make it much easier to switch between the two modes of movement if
> the visual/textual distinction was supported by distinct commands bound
> to distinct keys.
Perhaps, but in this case it's harmful: whether one wants to use arrow
keys or "emacsy" bindings tends to be dictated by the physical nature of
the keyboard and one's task -- arrow keys are convenient because they're
labelled, and a single keystroke, but they're inefficient and annoying
if one is touch-typing (due to the very large hand movement required to
use them), and lack integration with the general emacs key-binding
scheme -- so it's very desirable to be able to switch between them.
Having them be "similar but subtly different" horribly confuses an
otherwise straight-forward association.
-Miles
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- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, (continued)
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Andrew W. Nosenko, 2009/05/27
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Andrew W. Nosenko, 2009/05/27
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2009/05/31
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Andreas Schwab, 2009/05/31
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Miles Bader, 2009/05/31
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Bob Rogers, 2009/05/31
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil,
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- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Deniz Dogan, 2009/05/31
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Miles Bader, 2009/05/31
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Chong Yidong, 2009/05/31
- RE: please make line-move-visual nil, Drew Adams, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/05/25
- RE: please make line-move-visual nil, Drew Adams, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/05/24
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Miles Bader, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Chong Yidong, 2009/05/25