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Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected
From: |
Ted Zlatanov |
Subject: |
Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected |
Date: |
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:58:28 -0500 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) |
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:43:51 +0100 Jason Rumney <address@hidden> wrote:
JR> Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>> I am not looking for stability. The current Cocoa port is *unusable*
JR> You do mean Carbon, don't you? The Cocoa/GNUstep port is not yet
JR> merged.
Yes, I posted a correction. I'm definitely not a MacOS developer :)
JR> I think if we disable it now, it will never be revived, even if someone
JR> later comes forward who can maintain it. It's maybe better to leave our
JR> options open at this stage, at least until the Cocoa/GNUstep work is
JR> merged. The VMS code was unmaintained for years before we finally
JR> disabled and removed it.
I understand. Would it be possible to at least tell users "the Carbon
port has performance issues" in the docs? It's truly unusable at this
point.
>> and *unmaintained* (to the best of my knowledge) which is a very
>> different thing from unstable and the reason I'm trying to bring up this
>> issue again after 2 weeks of silence on the subject. I'd fix it myself
>> if I could, but I need at least some help (I posted on that earlier in
>> the thread) and none has been offered on the emacs-devel list since my
>> attempt 2 weeks ago.
>>
JR> I don't think anyone feels qualified to make an open offer of general
JR> help. But if you post specific issues here, then people may be able to
JR> help you on a case-by-case basis. I have been through the pain of
JR> getting the Windows port working after the multi-tty merge, and the
JR> former Carbon maintainer may still be reading the list if you need OSX
JR> specific help. The multi-tty code and design is currently poorly
JR> understood, but that is a general problem, not an OSX specific one.
There's a single specific issue: interactively, Emacs is unusable in the
Carbon port. Matsuharu gave a hint for fixing it (see my earlier post).
I tried what he said and it didn't work; no one has been interested in
helping me further. I can re-summarize in a separate post if you think
it will help.
Thank you for discussing this with me.
Ted
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, (continued)
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Ted Zlatanov, 2007/09/06
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, David Kastrup, 2007/09/06
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Dan Nicolaescu, 2007/09/06
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Ted Zlatanov, 2007/09/06
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Ted Zlatanov, 2007/09/10
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Ted Zlatanov, 2007/09/25
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Jason Rumney, 2007/09/25
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Ted Zlatanov, 2007/09/25
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Ted Zlatanov, 2007/09/25
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Jason Rumney, 2007/09/25
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected,
Ted Zlatanov <=
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu, 2007/09/25
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Ted Zlatanov, 2007/09/26
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Dan Nicolaescu, 2007/09/26
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Jason Rumney, 2007/09/26
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Jason Rumney, 2007/09/26
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Eli Zaretskii, 2007/09/26
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Ted Zlatanov, 2007/09/26
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Dan Nicolaescu, 2007/09/26
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Jason Rumney, 2007/09/06
- Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected, Richard Stallman, 2007/09/07