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Re: New start up splash screen annoyance...
From: |
David Kastrup |
Subject: |
Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... |
Date: |
Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:49 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
address@hidden (Kim F. Storm) writes:
> Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> I don't think an echo area message can do the job, because there
>> is not enough room.
>
> Really? Something like this would be quite sufficient IMVHO.
>
> (if menu-bar-mode
> (message
> "Welcome to GNU Emacs, one component of the GNU/Linux system.
> Please view \"About Emacs\" and \"About GNU\" on the Help menu.
>
> Use the Help menu to try out the Emacs Tutorial, view the Emacs Manuals,
> copying instructions, how to order printed copies of manuals and much more.
>
> GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. See Help > (Non)Warranty.
>
> To quit a partially entered command, type Control-g.
> Use Control-x Control-c To exit Emacs")
> (message
> "Welcome to GNU Emacs, one component of the GNU/Linux system.
> Type Control-g to quit a command. Control-x Control-c to Exit.
>
> Type C-h C-t to try out the Emacs Tutorial, C-h r to view the Emacs Manuals,
> C-h C-h for a list of other help topics including copying instructions
> and how to order printed copies of manuals.
>
> GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. See C-h C-w."))
>
>> An extra level of indirection would be far
>> less effective.
>
> I don't follow.
My suggestion was to use something like
(message "Type f1 C-a for important information about Emacs and the GNU
project")
(or a tooltip), just more persistent than message ordinarily is. That
would be the added level at indirection.
>> The idea of popping up two frames seems worth trying.
>> Would someone like to try it?
>
> I would find that exteremely annoying.
> And I don't see how it can work with -nw mode.
I don't think that a large "message" will do the trick: it will
disappear too easily, and if one would instead force it to stay around
for 30 seconds or so, again, it would be quite annoying.
I agree that it would be less obnoxious than the current variant, but
I think it is more annoying than necessary when one does not want the
information, while it is less reliable when one wants it.
I have my doubts that this discrepance can be resolved really
satisfactorily without what Richard calls "an extra level of
indirection".
--
David Kastrup
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., (continued)
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Kim F. Storm, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., David Kastrup, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Glenn Morris, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., David Kastrup, 2007/09/19
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/20
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Kim F. Storm, 2007/09/19
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance...,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Stephen J. Turnbull, 2007/09/19
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Stefan Monnier, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Mathias Dahl, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., David Kastrup, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2007/09/18
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/19
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Juri Linkov, 2007/09/19
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Leo, 2007/09/19
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/21