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Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default
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Stephen Leake |
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Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default |
Date: |
Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:21:56 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) |
Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> writes:
>> * to bind <F11> to some kind of buffer-switching command such as
>> iswitchb-buffer,
>
>> * and to bind <F12> to save-buffer,
>
>> by default? These are very commonly used functions, so I think it
>> is worthwhile to provide one-key access to them.
>
> Actually, I find this reasoning rather odd:
> - on the one hand, they're much less used than many other commands.
> Yes, it's very unlikely that a user would never use such commands in any
> given Emacs session, but as for frequency of use, it's not that high up
> the list.
I use 'iswitchb-buffer' a _lot_. But it is an individual preference.
> - F11 and F12 are rather far, so they're not quick. It's "one key",
> but it's not clear that it's quicker to use than C-x C-s for
> example.
I have iswitchb-buffer bound to F11, and find-file bound to F12. I
much prefer single keys (even when "far") to double keys; my wrists
have trouble reaching the control key.
Again, a very personal preference.
> This said, I think it probably makes sense to give default bindings to those
> Fn keys rather than leave them unused. We should keep them as "user
> modifiable" keys, tho (i.e. commands bound to an Fn key should also have
> a good other binding).
I agree with the goal to "make Emacs more friendly to the
newbie". But I think that is best done via menus, not more
keybindings.
I also agree that this should be considered after the release.
> I'd tend to consider the Fn keys in a similar way to menu entries or toolbar
> entries. Actually maybe a good idea would be to map toolbar entries to Fn
> keys: F2 presses the first button, F3 the second, etc...
I don't think that's helpful. If I like the toolbar, it's because I
use the mouse, so the function key bindings would just be redundant.
If I don't like the toolbar, I turn it off to allow more space for
buffer contents, so I would lose the labeling of the function keys.
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-- Stephe
- Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default, (continued)
- Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default, Jiri Pejchal, 2007/01/31
- RE: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving bydefault, Drew Adams, 2007/01/31
- Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving bydefault, Richard Stallman, 2007/01/31
- Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default, Eli Zaretskii, 2007/01/30
- Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default, Jason Spiro, 2007/01/30
Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default, Richard Stallman, 2007/01/30
Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default, Stefan Monnier, 2007/01/30
- Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default,
Stephen Leake <=
Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default, JD Smith, 2007/01/31