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Re: Info tutorial is out of date
From: |
Jay Belanger |
Subject: |
Re: Info tutorial is out of date |
Date: |
Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:03:38 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
"Drew Adams" <address@hidden> writes:
> > Newbies are overwhelmingly used to using a mouse. Let them do
> > that while they get the basics of Info.
>
> Once they're used to it, they're less likely to change.
>
> They're already used to it - there are no more virgin users.
They're not used to using the mouse with Emacs.
> > Save the teaching of why it's better to learn to use the keyboard
> > for later.
>
> When it will be too late for many. If indeed it is better to use the
> keyboard (and I think it is), it seems a bad idea to begin by teaching
> bad habits, however easy these habits may be.
>
> I'm not suggesting we teach them *any* way to perform simple navigation
> (equivalent of `n' and `p'). On the contrary, my point was that we *need
> not* teach that. There is an obvious, simple way to navigate: click a link
> or navigation button.
Falling back on that is effectively teaching them that's the way to do
it, or at least allowing them to teach themselves thats how to do it.
> I'm not worried about the risk that users will never learn to use `n'
> instead of clicking the `Next' button. You are, apparently.
Yes; but on my list of worries, this is fairly minor.
> Info is a browser for finding and reading manuals. The argument for
> keyboard shortcuts is vastly overstated when it comes to browsing
> (vs editing).
I would guess that someone using a mouse (or keyboard) for one part of
Emacs would use it throughout.
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, (continued)
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Luc Teirlinck, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Miles Bader, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Stefan Monnier, 2006/07/18
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Miles Bader, 2006/07/18
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Richard Stallman, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date,
Jay Belanger <=
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Jay Belanger, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Slawomir Nowaczyk, 2006/07/20
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Richard Stallman, 2006/07/20
- Message not available
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date; mouse usage, David Kastrup, 2006/07/16
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date; mouse usage, Drew Adams, 2006/07/16
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/16