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Subject: bug#31397: closed (27.0.50; Emacs doesn't call package-initialize if there's no elpa directory)
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:58:02 +0000

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--- Begin Message --- Subject: 27.0.50; Emacs doesn't call package-initialize if there's no elpa directory Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 01:17:12 -0400
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High-level summary:
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If Emacs is started with no ~/.emacs.d/elpa directory,
#'package-initialize is not called, and I can't programatically work
with packages.

----------
Motivation
----------

I like my init file to completely set up Emacs: I want to be able to
start with an empty ~/.emacs.d/ move my init file into it, and start up
Emacs. To do that, I've had (previously to Emacs 27), this as the
preamble to my init file:

    (require 'package)
    (add-to-list 'package-archives
                 '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/"))
    (package-initialize)
   
    (unless (package-installed-p 'use-package)
      (package-refresh-contents)
      (package-install 'use-package))

This sets up package.el with the ability to use melpa, then installs
use-package, for use in the rest of my init file. This has worked fine.

But I recently upgraded my Emacs to a newer version built from source,
using commit 766b057e41df7316808ec7658836fda75facda75. As part of that,
I've read up on the early init file. My understanding is that users
should no longer call #'package-initialize in their init files. This is
supported by, if I do have a call to #'package-initialize, starting
Emacs gives me a warning "Warning (package): Unnecessary call to
‘package-initialize’ in init file". So I figured I would remove it. But
I quickly ran into a problem, or at least an area for better
documentation.

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Reproduction instructions
-------------------------

A minimal init file that shows my problem is here:

    (require 'package)
    (add-to-list 'package-archives
                 '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/"))
   
    (message "use-package is installed: %s" (package-installed-p 'use-package))

Here's how I delete the elpa directory, and then start up Emacs:

    $ rm -r ~/.emacs.d/elpa
    $ src/emacs

Upon doing so, here's the error I get:

    Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading ‘/home/zck/.emacs.d/init.el’:
   
    error: package.el is not yet initialized!
   
    To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
    cause of the error in your initialization file.  Start Emacs with
    the ‘--debug-init’ option to view a complete error backtrace.

---------------------------
Investigation & speculation
---------------------------

I started looking around for documentation, and found this interesting
comment in simple.el's function #'command-line:

    ;; If any package directory exists, initialize the package system.

This seems to be the cause. I'm not sure why the package system
shouldn't be initialized if there is no package directory; I want to be
able to do package operations even if I'm starting with no package
directory. You have to start somewhere.

Thanks!

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System information
------------------

In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
 of 2018-05-07 built on zck-laptop
Repository revision: 766b057e41df7316808ec7658836fda75facda75
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--- Begin Message --- Subject: Re: bug#31397: 27.0.50; Emacs doesn't call package-initialize if there's no elpa directory Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 17:57:35 -0500 User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux)
> I agree, and have had a cursory look without finding any obvious
> candidates.  Perhaps it's best to do them on a case-by-case basis,
> i.e. treat them as normal bugs if/when they are found.
>
> IOW, I'm not sure it makes sense if it makes sense to keep this bug
> open just for the eventuality that there are more functions with
> similar bugs.

Agreed, closing,


        Stefan



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