[debbugs-tracker] bug#35261: closed (26.1; EBDB Documentation)

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> 26.1; EBDB Documentation
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> Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:26:31 +0000
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> This is a documentation problem for EBDB.
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> The documentation lacks clarity on how to setup EBDB for the first time
> in the case where you are *not* converting from BBDB or Org Contacts.
> More information is needed on how to create an EBDB database for the
> first time, how to setup the first record(s) that you put into the
> database, and (perhaps) an example session.  As it is, the documentation
> is too esoteric for someone unfamiliar with EBDB (or BBDB) concepts to
> make heads or tails of it and get their feet wet.
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> --- Begin Message ---
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> Subject: 
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> Re: bug#35261: 26.1; EBDB Documentation
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> Date: 
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> Fri, 19 Apr 2019 17:00:45 -0700
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> Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux)
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>
>
> On 04/19/19 22:31 PM, David Masterson wrote:
> > Eric Abrahamsen <address@hidden> writes:
> >
> >> On 04/17/19 03:41 AM, David Masterson wrote:
> >
> >>> Beyond this, I can see that lots of documentation (and, I assume,
> >>> functionality) is still needed:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Installation details of EBDB and related tools.
> >>> 2. Details on what type of records a database is composed of.
> >>> 3. Details on the fields of a record.
> >>> 4. Details on the type of a field.
> >>> 5. Import/Export functionality
> >>> 6. Hooks for add-ons
> >>>
> >>> * By 'details', I mean some Emacs Elisp and not just English to give us
> >>>   real reference information.
> >>
> >> EBDB is only just stabilizing (the export stuff went through some big
> >> refactoring just recently) and I'm a little hesitant to lay all this
> >> stuff out in the manual. One of the long-term goals is definitely to
> >> make EBDB programmable and integratable with other packages, but I'm
> >> dragging my feet a little bit until I'm more confident that the API
> >> won't change. It'll get there, though.
> >
> > Okay.  Mostly consider #1 with:
> >
> > * Installation as a package (and via savanah?)
> > * How to get help if needed (bug reports)
> > * Other packages to install/Use (Org and Gnus)
> >
> > A primer as applies to EBDB for #2, #3, and #4 would be nice.
>
> Done! Thanks for all the suggestions.
>
> Eric
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