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Re: Code of Conduct...

From: Svetlana Tkachenko
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct...
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 21:12:57 +1100
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Happy (upcoming) New Year indeed, all.

A few thoughts:

* Personally, would be interested in working from problem to solution, not the 
other way around. I haven't seen problematic people on the list. (Please 
correct me if this is false.)
* At the very least suggest to have a procedure to alter the CoC in the case it 
is approved.
* Re "Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct" - What contributor? A person with 
git push access? a ML member? an IRC channel member? A definition would be 
* "We as members, contributors, and leaders pledge to make participation in our 
community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of [...].". 
What about private messaging (email to a person rather than on list)? Is that 
still "in our community" or not?
* In my opinion such pledge may be unnecessary, it is already the law in most 
* "We pledge to act and interact in ways that contribute to an open, welcoming, 
diverse, inclusive, and healthy community." I think it would be more valuable 
for people here to create good mentoring or documentation infrastructure, run 
hackathons, pair contributors based on timezone or interest, etc. This 
initiative does not have to be limited to the leader. Pledging such actionable 
items would in my opinion be more fruitful and perhaps less intimidating with 

Did not read much further. Hope this may help Gregory or others to decide the 
appropriate way forward.

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